Need HD5 flywheel clutch shifting sleeve
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Topic: Need HD5 flywheel clutch shifting sleeve
Posted By: dyno
Subject: Need HD5 flywheel clutch shifting sleeve
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2012 at 9:54pm
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Hi, I'm looking for p/n 077697 shifting sleeve for my HD5 crawler. This is from a Rockford style clutch. An assembly complete with throw out bearing (073647) and carrier (078052) would be great.  Thanks, dyno 208-859-9082
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Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:35am
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General Gear has them http://www.tpaktopc.net/achd6strcltch.htm |
Posted By: dyno
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 10:00am
| Unfortunately, the sleeves at General Gear are for an Auburn clutch. Mine is a Rockford. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 7:18pm
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I made my own sleeve from a brass bushing i machined to fit . I may have a yoke but unsure and I know the bushing would be worn . The bushing wears out fast if the engine is left running with the transmission in gear and clutch disengaged. This is why when tractor is setting , put transmission in Neutral and engage master clutch so transmission turns. If you replace the bearing use a sealed bearing and no need to grease it then - that is what I did on mine along with the pilot bearing - sealed pre-greased bearing . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: dyno
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 7:35pm
| Yes, I have thought about trying to somehow repair the sleeve. the I.D. is really worn, so bad that the sleeve portion that had the bearing retaining snap ring was completely worn off. Now the bearing slips off the sleeve without the snap ring. I just don't know if there's a way to add a new sleeve portion to the 3 eared portion of the casting. |
Posted By: ac_sd
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 11:44pm
| I might have one, I'll look tomorrow..... |
Posted By: dyno
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 8:42am
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If I can't find a good used sleeve, I may have to have one made like Coke. Does anyone know what kind of clearance there is between the sleeve and the input shaft? Mine is excessively worn. Also, I replaced the 3 cams inside the pressure plate with ones I got from Hector. The replacements didn't have grease fittings on them like my old ones did. Hopefully this won't be a problem as I don't use the machine very often.
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 11:29am
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I do not remember what I used for clearance it was - I need to replace this - I have this brass bushing i removed from a machine at work - if I turn down outside to fit into yoke and then bore it to fit over the shaft - yep tat is about the right size - couple thousands more - dang seems to loose now should have left it as it was - it works ! ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: dyno
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 7:42pm
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Looks like I'm going to make a new sleeve and press it in the hub. I priced a piece of round stock brass and it was 175.00. Do you think I could make one out of steel and expect it to wear OK?
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:16pm
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dont use a steel one. dad had one made to sleeve the clutch on our old HD10W and it galled and siezed in about 5 min. yes it was greased. Had a brass one made to same specs... still running ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: dyno
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:28pm
| Thanks. Answers the question! |
Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2013 at 6:56am
| Don't use brass. Use bearing bronze. Bronze bushings are available from a bearing supplier I have also seen bearing bronze on eBay. You may have to machine the O.D. & I.D. but it should be less expensive than buying bar stock. Yes everything is getting more expensive. |
Posted By: dyno
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2013 at 8:09am
| Ok I will look into some bronze stock. It looked like the original sleeve was made of brass. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2013 at 5:54pm
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Bearing bronz or oil-lite bushings might be found - takes some hunting - I just happened to have the brass bearing from a machine i serviced (a scrubbing machine for aircraft panels) and the brass stock worked great. Been in my HD5 for 8 years now . I might have the cast housing in my extra parts but I know the inside bushing is shot in the one i might have. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |