Anybody know why...?
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Topic: Anybody know why...?
Posted By: briwayjones
Subject: Anybody know why...?
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 7:35pm
| After the model C came out since it was available with a wide front why Did AC continue making the model B since they were basically the same tractor? Especially later on when they upped the horsepower of the B to the same as the C? Kind of seems like a waste of resources and money. |
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 7:41pm
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The B is a one row. C is two row. Enough farmers wanted each version or they wouldn't have built them... ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 7:42pm
| Because it still sold well. |
Posted By: Lars(wisc)
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 7:46pm
| My first guess would be the retail price between the two. We look back in time, but use today's standard of the value of money. What may seem to us as small price gap, to society that many decades ago, is a huge price difference. |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 7:46pm
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Ya. That is a good question really. You would think the c model would have taken the full market share for that HP range with the adjustable wide front end. Did they make the model b the same time period as the CA? That would have been an even greater leap in technology for AC. I am guessing price difference keep the model b in the line up. ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 8:43pm
| Well.......the B is just "cuter"!! |
Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 9:48pm
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The B was built between 1937 and 1957.
The C was built from 1940 until 1950.
The CA was built from 1950 until 1957.
As stated before, The B was a single row tractor and the C and CA were 2 row tractors.
Many farmers only wanted to cultivate 1 row at a time. You need a 2 row planter to cultivate 2 rows or else the spacing might be off.
Bob ------------- 4 B's, 1 C's,3 CA's, 2 G's WD, D14, D15, B-1, B10, B12, 712S, |
Posted By: briwayjones
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 10:04pm
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Couldn't the C be easily used as a one row tractor though? I guess maybe they didn't see justification in using a 2 row tractor to do one row? |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 10:11pm
The C rear wheels can not be set as close together as the B....not sure if the fronts could either..... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
briwayjones wrote:Posted By: briwayjones
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 10:38pm
| Did not know that. Thought they were the same. |
Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 6:08am
| They are not the same. As the other post said, the rear wheels can be set closer together on the B for one row work, and farther apart on the C for two row. |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 8:03am
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I hardly ever see a C with wide front. Most of them were narrow front end. The additional cost to order a wide front C was most likly the reason that the B was ordered instead. I suspect the value of an adjustabe wide front wasn't realised.
Does anyone know, Was the adjustabe wide front offered throughout all the production years of the C? How many wide front C's were built? ------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 9:04am
| Not much different than the D10/D12 tractors. They were the same as each other except that the 10 was a one row tractor and the 12 was a 2 row tractor. Darrel |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 9:08am
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I would think since the cost was so low to build them, they kept the B around until the CA basic supplanted both the B and C. Additionally, everything they learned with the B, C and CA essentially layed the groundwork for the D10/D12. The CA is still my favorite as we had one of the last ones made on our central NY dairy growing up. Since my dad left his father's farm where they used five WD-45's, he has said he was tickled to find a 57 CA on the farm he purchased in November 61 (his father had brought one of the first B's up from PA when my dad was a kid). It had a full compliment of cultivators, belly mower and A-C trip loader, and was the "main" tractor until he purchased a used D15I in 1964. There was also a 47 ZAU(?) MM that came with the farm but that was a bear to start. I still remember him running a NH 77 with a Wisconsin engine behind that CA as we picked bales up off the ground until the D15 came along. It sure was funny watching that 77 surge while baling heavy hay as it pushed the CA around badly.
When we sold out in late 79, we layed out all the implements around the CA on the front lawn and it must have been quite the package the day it was delivered by the dealer when purchased new.
Pullers like the CA down here as it is slightly longer than the B, and pretty much perfectly balanced which helps get that little power house torque to the track.
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