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collector or scrapper

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Topic: collector or scrapper
Posted By: NoMoneyAC
Subject: collector or scrapper
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 12:35pm

Is the classifieds on here going to the scrappers? Is this tractor really only worth $500?

 
I will not name names but you know who you are. I paid more for one used rim and tire. Just me blowing off steam.



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Posted By: jeffsh
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 12:49pm

parts cost more than the whole thing



Posted By: NoMoneyAC
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 12:54pm
So I should part out a running tractor or scrap it. I must be nuts for paying so much. Thanks


Posted By: jeffsh
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 1:04pm

fixer up!



Posted By: NoMoneyAC
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 1:10pm
I use it now. I like old paint look.


Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 1:13pm
A WD45 like that is diffently worth $500!! Around me that would sell for $1000 or more.

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Posted By: NoMoneyAC
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 1:25pm
That is around the price I was thinking. We both must be thinking like a couple of persian orange squirrels. Wacko


Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 1:43pm
Problem is, you are too far away from me!


Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 2:06pm
Wish I had the money. I will agree that its worth more than $500.

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Can't fix stupid


Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 4:08pm
Nobody seems to be willing to pay much these days. Probably don't have fun money any more.

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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!


Posted By: NoMoneyAC
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 4:12pm
I like orange gold better than funny money.


Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 4:22pm
If it were mine theres no way I'd sell it for less than $1000  Over the years (befor recession) I have fixed up many and usually get less than what I have in them but it's a hobby for me and I enjoy working on them.


Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 8:22pm
Depends if you are buying or selling.
And at an auction it takes two people that A- have money and B- WANT it for the price to go up.
Value is in the eyes of the beholder.


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The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend?


Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 3:16pm
I'm cheap, so I'd try to get it for as little as possible, but If it's a good runner & you weren't so far away, I'd offer you closer to the $1000 that you want for it.

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Allis Chalmers 1944 B, 1949 B, D14, WC


Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 7:35am
She looks pretty straight -- if she runs as well -- would think the 1000 - 1500 range in value -- but you need a buyer that thinks the same. If it were a wide front and you were closer, I'd be at your doorstep.


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 10:28am
Well, I wasn't sure what the original post or title was about, so I went looking for it in the classifieds.

My perspective on it, is that if somone posts items for sale, and posts no asking price, then they're asking for offers.

In a face-to-face sale, price is determined by a jointly agreed transaction price.  "value", at that point, is established, not only by the transaction PRICE, but by other considerations between seller and buyer.  Sometimes these considerations can be evaluated, however, other times (like when buying or selling to family or a friend) simply cannot- they exist in a realm above money.

In an auction, price is determined not by the highest bidder, but by the second highest bidder.  (Grandpa's words, not mine... but he was right!).  The limits to which one will bid on an object in live auction, are frequently limited by the amount of time and depth of observation that the bidders have to examine the object and determine it's true condition.

In an internet auction, the price is subject to same situation as a live auction, with the caveat that essentially NO prior examination is possible, and buyers constrict their offers based on the condition which the object is described, the amount of demonstration provided (photo of stack with engine running, video of startup and operation, etc), the level of guarantee that the seller offers, and finally, the investment a buyer would have to make in order to get the item delivered to their location.

Back to the initial condition-  when offering something for sale, the seller posts an asking price.  This price reflects the seller's confidence in the item, as well as the seller's understanding of the marketable value, given all the other items above.  If you offered the tractor for sale for $200, and was located in Gnome, Alaska or anywhere in Honolulu, you would likely get no offers.  You did excel above others, in that you did list your location...   why some don't, totally escapes me, because last time I tried, I couldn't get a WD in a standard Priority Mail shipping box... alas, it still happens.

But anyway, you didn't post a price, so one would surmise from that, that you were open to any and all offers, reasonable and unreasonable.  The buyer's offer, at that point, would be motivated by three simple things:

1) Accomodating the fact that they have less that sufficient understanding of it's condition...

2) Accomodating the fact that cost of coming to look, and the transportation investment is very high...

or...

3) They're looking for a very good deal.


Frankly, I can't blame anyone for ANY of these conditions.

If you feel slighted by their offers, I recommend that you put on asking prices, and when doing so, take into account that which I noted above.  Also accept the fact that an agreement on value is made through the volley of negotiation, and that you may find that there's more INTRINSIC value (i.e., it was a family heirloom) in it than what someone's willing to offer for a sale-value.  In that case, you'll have the choice of rejecting the offer, or perhaps accepting in in consideration of other factors that transcend money.


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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.



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