Loud Wheel Noise (AC WD)
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Topic: Loud Wheel Noise (AC WD)
Posted By: Knight63
Subject: Loud Wheel Noise (AC WD)
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 7:54pm
| Hello, I'm quite new to tractors so this might be a stupid question. My WD's wheels make a lot of noise compared to other tractors I've been around. Is this normal? Does it just need some oil or grease? Thanks |
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 9:57pm
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Depends on the noise, a common cause of wheel noise is loose eccentrics on the spin out rim, another possiblity is a damaged final drive. Can you give a little desription of the type of noise? Metal on metal grinding? Squealing? Clunking? And approximately where is it coming from? ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 4:20am
| which wheels? |
Posted By: Knight63
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 7:14am
| I'm pretty sure its both wheels and it sounds like the gears in the wheels. The noise gets louder as you go faster. I'll take it for a ride later to be sure. My dad and brother just think its the way the gears were designed and aren't concerned by it, but none of us have ever been around another WD to know if its normal. Thanks |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 7:18am
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The rear end of a spur gear WD transmission will howl and that's the nature of a spur gear tranny. Olivers are even louder IMO. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 9:04am
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WD final drives are notoriously loud because of the straight cut gears. drop the pans on the bottom of the final drives and make sure they're not full of tar, or empty. it is common for the gear lube to never be changed or level checked. clean out the pans really good and put them back on with new gaskets, then fill them with 85-140 gear oil through the side plug until it runs out the hole, should quiet them down some.
------------- 1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow |
Posted By: Knight63
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 10:42am
| Thanks a lot for the help everybody. It is greatly appreciated. I won't worry about it anymore. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 12:05pm
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If you don't take Bills's advice and clean and inspect the finals, I would at least take the plug out and see if there is any gear lube in them. If the noise leads to worn bearings and shelled out gear teeth, it will be painful to fix later. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: MikeinLcoMo
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 12:10pm
| Last time I heard a loud noise from a rear wheel was when I backed over the Brother in law's foot while he was giving driving advice. |
Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 11:43pm
sounds like his fault he didn't give better advice   ------------- 1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow |
MikeinLcoMo wrote:Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 4:10am
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Posted By: dannyraddatz
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 5:26am
Bill, I used 80-90 wt. oil when I did my finals, my AC book called for 80ep. Why do yo recommend 85-140 instead? Second question, where do you buy 250ep oil for the steering gear box? Danny ------------- Danny Raddatz |
Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 9:53am
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85-140 being thicker seems to quiet it down a bit more, also sticks better to the gears and makes it up to the pinion better and doesn't leak as easily. since I only use mine in the summer I don't worry about such thick oil in the cold. can't help you on the steering gear oil I haven't worked on mine, I think there was a post on here a while back about it maybe try a search
------------- 1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow |
Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 2:01pm
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I have never been able to find 250 wt oil. I just put in a grease fitting and use grease. It does not leak past seals like gear lube does.
------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 3:56pm
| 80/90 or 80/140 for a WD sounds good to me, when I did my WC it called for 250 -- was unable to find any so made up my oun concocktion mixing chasis grease with 80/90 till it was almost as thick as sheet rock mud. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 7:45pm
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When it sticks to the gears really, really well, you can pull the pan right off, and it still won't leak out!!! Of course, if 'ya get dirt in that stuff, it just turns into an abrasive grit and wears the teeth down too... but I'll third Bill's advise to check 'em out. They may be a little noisier than normal noisy on account of it being ill-maintained. Good idea to drain the transmission and refill it, and also replace the stick-shift boot, as the boot tends to rot away, and rain runs down the stick into the transmission case, and you wind up with all sorts of wonderful things as a result. Like... going out to start it up on Christmas Day, and find that the transmission is totally seized... frozen full of water... and the case is cracked... ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: dannyraddatz
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 4:47am
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Has anyone ever used Lucas oil products or additives? I had transmission problems about 50,000 miles ago in my suv, when the transmission fluid was changes they added a lucas product. That transmission is still running strong at 140,000 miles. here is a link http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products_overviews.sd?iid=2&catid=6" rel="nofollow - http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products_overviews.sd?iid=2&catid=6 ------------- Danny Raddatz |