what to look for buying a wd45
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Topic: what to look for buying a wd45
Posted By: didgood
Subject: what to look for buying a wd45
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 6:24am
| Going to an estate sale and they are selling two wd45s. One is a wf with a loader. The other is a nf. What should I look out for? Thanks for any help. |
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Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 6:58am
| there have been many wd's with the wd 45 badges. I think it's on the right hand side of the motor there will be a plate on the side of the engine block if it's a WD, the WD 45's didn't have a plate. ya want to look close at the front end of any tractor with a loader. the front end might be sprung, broke, welded, etc., make sure it don't look like the front end is sagging. find out were the hydro for the loader comes from, if it's off the 3pt tractor hydro ya can't use the loader when the clutch is pushed in. power steering is very nice with a loader. other than that, I don't know what to add. just listen to it run make sure it goes threw all the gears. alot of the older tractors the shifter wears out were it goes into the trans gears, then the shifter will just pop right out, then ya gotta fish the thing back in there. (I have to put my tractor into high gear very slowly or I'll pull the shifter out of the trans) see if they are 12 or 6volt. like any old machine look real close at the rear rims, if they had calcium in them and leaked they will rot away, if they are the spin out rims they are very pricey to replace. front tires aint to bad to replace but back ones will put a dent in any budget. I don't know of any problems with the wd 45's. I have had mine for 10-15 years, 1 coil and a battery. a couple of hydro hoses for the loader. it's had the snot hammered out of it and takes it in stride. I am not sure what your planning to use it for, but these are a larger size tractor and not really designed to work around a house on a small lot in the middle of town. good luck hope it helps. dt |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 7:15am
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I'll add that if you are going to restore it then you want to pay close attention to all the sheet metal as far as if it's all there and if it's all dinged/dented up. Rear fenders get chewed up pretty good with normal use in most cases. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: didgood
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 9:15am
| Cool thanks guys. I just read that thread the other day on the difference between a wd and a wd45, so I think I've git that. I seem to remember a post a while back about two different wf setups. I'm not getting it to restore, but hopefully one of them isn't too beat up. Thanks again |
Posted By: John (MO)
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 4:48pm
| Make sure it doesn't jump out of gear, that's a costly thing to fix. |
Posted By: RickUP
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 7:38pm
| The wide front setups are three bolt, n four bolt. The three bolt did'nt work, so the four bolt was born. If you stand in front of the tractor, you will see three bolts or four on the very front. The plate it's holding conects to the wide front axle. Good Luck!!!!!! |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 7:42pm
| Rims and tires are VERY expensive, consider that when looking at a tractor |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 9:34pm
| ck the hand clutch and make sure it has a positive snap when it is engaged and disengaged.usually a shim removal will fix that,but i have seen baked discs on them also.if the hand clutch is bad the tractor will have to be split to repair.also ck the pto operation real good.. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 10:02pm
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When I go to auctions, I look for tractors. I also look for parts... and I look for other people that might be bidding on them, and decide wether they need them worse than me. Oftentimes they do, sometimes they don't. Just always remember what my grandfather told you: The auction price is not determined by the highest bidder. It's determined by the SECOND HIGHEST BIDDER. (sometimes the second highest bidder is shilling) ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: dannyraddatz
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 10:19pm
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The best advise is drive a WD45 a head of time so you can tell what is normal and how it should feel. Understand that it will cost a lot of money if you can not work on it yourself. When I looked at a WD45 last year I opened up the fill plugs on the torque tube, checked the oil, checked the hydro, the hand clutch, oil pressure, went trough the gears to see if it would pop out and checked the exhaust with a dollar bill to see if it had sticking valves. crawl around it's belly to to see what is going on under your tractor too. Tire and rims too. Good Luck, Danny
------------- Danny Raddatz |
Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 10:22pm
Tell us what the dollar bill does to check the exhaust. Not familiar with that one.
------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 5:13am
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Ted in NE-OH wrote:Posted By: dannyraddatz
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 6:38am
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I learned this from a buddy about 30 years ago, when I would try to buy old Jeeps that had 4 cylinder engines and I used it when I bought my
WD45 tractor with a 4 cylinder engine. You start the engine at idle or 1/4 throttle, with a firm grip, place a new 1 dollar bill about 2" over the exhaust pipe, as the engine is running if it sucks the dollar bill into the exhaust, it will snap like you can't believe. I was told that this is a sign the
exhaust valve is sticking or the seat is bad, it could also be bent, burnt or out of adjustment too. Here is a video from youtube that shows no problems with the valves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8LRhuHuerw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8LRhuHuerw sorry I could not find a video of it sucking in the dollar bill, my friend sold his ford tractor that did this last year. Here is another link
down and a shop tip will talk about this test.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Yn9F0RhJ0EkC&pg=PA573&lpg=PA573&dq=dollar+bill+exhaust+valve+test&source=bl&ots=S9F4AHOCyc&sig=o6U4jNIctW4upR1VjJqCyqTAMEk&hl=en#v=onepage&q=dollar%20bill%20exhaust%20valve%20test&f=false" rel="nofollow - http://books.google.com/books?id=Yn9F0RhJ0EkC&pg=PA573&lpg=PA573&dq=dollar+bill+exhaust+valve+test&source=bl&ots=S9F4AHOCyc&sig=o6U4jNIctW4upR1VjJqCyqTAMEk&hl=en#v=onepage&q=dollar%20bill%20exhaust%20valve%20test&f=false scroll ------------- Danny Raddatz |
Posted By: didgood
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 7:39am
| Thanks a lot. Can't wait to check things out - I'll post pics if I get anything. |
Posted By: bryan/silex
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 6:23pm
| Dont forget to wiggle the clutch pedal and the right side brake pedal to see how much slop they have ,incase they need to be re bushed or not. They are a high wear item |
Posted By: R Aiken
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 6:30pm
| If you are going to buy an oarnge tractor, ware a red or green shirt and cap. |
Posted By: bryan/silex
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 7:02pm
| You are right that will throw them off ! My trouble is I work for a deere dealer so wearin my uniform worked the first couple of times and was good for some looks but now they used to it !! including my boss !!! |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 5:15am
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