Bad Fuel
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Topic: Bad Fuel
Posted By: jtheise4
Subject: Bad Fuel
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 8:43pm
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I tried to start my D14 up tonight after it sat in my garage all winter. Before 'putting it to bed' last fall, I ran the carb dry and treated the remaining fuel in the tank with a fuel stabilizer. Figured that would be enough. Boy was I wrong. I cranked and cranked and it only barely caught one time. I drained some fuel from the sediment bowl and it was nasty looking. Thank you ethanol! Learned my lesson. From now on, the tank gets drained completely before storing. ------------- 1958 D14 |
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 10:24pm
| Yep. Stay away from ethanol if you not using up on a regular basis. Darrel |
Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 10:41pm
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Did you use the green Sta-bil for ethenol or the regular red stuff? I'm like you, drain everything and forget the elixers. ------------- Maximum use of available resources! |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 11:00pm
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You did things in the wrong order. You need to put the Sta-bil in first, and run the tractor a while to get it into the carburetor and carburetor passages. That will include the sediment bowl. Then shut off the fuel valve and run the carburetor dry, but there will still be some fuel in the carburetor, it won't be absolutely dry. As a minimum there will be a drop sitting in the main jet, the worst place for fuel to turn to varnish. This order gives a better chance of Sta-bil working. Gerald J. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 12:07am
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I use the same technique that Gerald suggests... and I throttle the engine up, when it starts to falter, I pull out the choke so it draws out as much as it'll pull... then I drain the carb bowl. Draining the tank isn't necessarily a good idea- it invites condensation, which corrodes the inside of the tank. When I put things in long-term storage, I fill 'em to the top with winter formulation fuel, and when it comes time to start 'em back up, I drain the tank, and refill it with fresh fuel. The old stuff will usually 'layer out', with water at the bottom, then a mixture of water and ethanol (ethanol is hygroscopic), then ethanol, then gasoline. I drain off the water and ethanol, and put it into tiki-torches. The remainder will usually burn fine in my old generator, but it goes through a good filter first, and I mix in fresh fuel to sweeten it up. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 7:17am
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I use dry gas all year round and knock on wood haven't had any troubles come the Spring so far. Before I park the Tractors for the Winter, I usually dump a full bottle of dry gas in the tank and run the engines for a while so the dry gas adds to what's already in the carb and system from the summer months. I then run the Tractors for 10 minutes or so through the Winter months (usually once a month) and so far haven't had any issues. I also keep the tanks pretty close to the top to help keep out moisture. That gets expensive with the cost of todays fuel though.... Whew!
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Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 8:45am
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Most towns have a pump or two that have ethanol free supreme...it'll cost ya, but that's what stays in anything gas powered that ain't going to be run for a few months around here. I've had to replace three accelerator pumps in edelbrock carbs because they stick in the bore from that crap we have to use as fuel, took me a while to figure it out.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 2:34pm
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Stabil only works on fresh fuel. It doesn't do much good to add it to gas that is already old. Everything here gas powered gets fuel with Stabil (red stuff) added to the fuel at the time the can was filled at the station. Been doing that for many years now. No fuel system problems for me. You can drain if you want, but that is inviting condensation/corrosion. Do it like me and you won't have fuel caused problems... ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 2:36pm
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Well I shouldn't say everything. The lawnmower doesn't get it's fuel treated until the last time I use it in the fall. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 8:43pm
I keep a half a tank of 10% ethanol in my 45. It might run 3 or 4 times thru the summer and last year I ran it once during the winter. I have had this tractor for 30+ years and have used ethanol since it came out. I have never added any stabil on any other junk in the tank and usually do not run the carb empty. The only thing I have done to the engine in the past 30 years is ground the valves once and replaced the plugs,points and condenser a couple times. I did have to add a nipple to the top of the sediment bowl several years ago cause of rusty crud in the tank. I probably should run her dry and drain the water out of the bottom one of these years
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