How to "Setup For Pull" 101
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Topic: How to "Setup For Pull" 101
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Subject: How to "Setup For Pull" 101
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 8:50am
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OK, now can I see some pulling secrets on here- other than give it hell, as long as you keep going, you're still in.- from, the give it hell, as long as you keep going you won't get stuck! ------------- |
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Posted By: IL-D17
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 9:48pm
3 things to remember to make a good pull.... 1) traction, 2) power, and 3) traction 
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 6:02am
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Traction is my issue! My 16.9x28's just won't dig in a grab the track. I dropped down to 5 psi but the tires still don't ripple or dig in. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 6:29am
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What for tires are you running? What tread type? ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 6:55am
Not sure what brand they are. Hitches, we have to use stock with twisted clevis most pulls. Some places allow custom hitches but I don't have one. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 6:57am
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Charlie,
I was having the same trouble. I have a set of 16.9x26 off a combine on my WD. They didn't want to bite in the track. I fixed them by sharpening them. Just find some concrete tie the tractor to something solid, put in reverse and let them spin slowly. I used bleach to soften the rubber and water to keep cool, it takes a while but will give a nice edge. They look like Firestone 151's, a pullers dream! ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 6:58am
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Could I bolt a "D" ring to the draw bar support and remove the drawbar? Or is the support/casting not strong enough for it? ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 7:14am
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I have saw it done, make sure you are at maximum height allowed. Most places I have been allow 20" for pure, and modified farm stock. Remember, lower tire pressure allows for squat, which reduces hitch height, which "unloads" the tires. I am far from a pro, we keep notes on track conditions, tire pressure, etc... On tight tracks, in 3500# class I have dropped my hitch to keep the front end down andoff the wheelie bars. 1" on hitch makes for several feet on the track. ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: IL-D17
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 7:28pm
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those tires that you show pictured would make for excellent pullin tires!!! Need to shorten up drawbar as short as rules allow ( 18" from center of rear axle to hook point here) and raise it as high as rules allow ( 18"-20" here depending on class). also do as said and anchor tractor and spin in reverse on concrete. know a guy that dun that and it works! be patient, tires will get hot and need to let cool down then do again. Dont know the air pressure you run but air them down so tread is flat on ground before spinning backwards. |
Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 8:13pm
| Charlie, find another drawbar and shorten it up. ( Don't do it to your org. hitch ) The pin hole will be right behind the botton support. Should keep you at 18" from axle and still look "stock". Then get some flat plates to put under the drawbar to get your height up. That should make it pull down on that 17. Also keep your tire pressure up to around 12lbs. Just because your tire doesn't flex on the outside doesn't mean its not cupping inthe center . After you pull look in the tire holes on the track. If its shaped like a U, let out some air. If there's dirt in the center ( cupped) add air. |
Posted By: KevinC(MD)
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2012 at 5:28am
| Be careful with tire pressure being too low - if track is hard, keep your tires hard but flat on track. If loose/soft, some ripple wont hurt but low pressure can upset your critical drawbar height under full power/load. - Just my two cents...I like the ideas about sharpening! I think this page is great too! |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2012 at 7:27am
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Thanks for the hints! ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2012 at 9:07pm
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Shortening up the drawbar helps a bunch. When I first starting pulling my WD45 diesel, a friend who is also an AC guy Bob Thomas gave me the same advice. I took my two piece drawbar apart and used the front half and that helped a bunch. The next week I made a new drawbar that was as short as I could go still using the stock cradle. I placed 4th at the next pull. That was one of the first things I did to my D19 was cut the old drawbar down. It was bent from years of use and really worn on the end anyways. So I shortened it up, and the second pull I took second. ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |
Posted By: colroy
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 8:37pm
| i agree with cwhit i have always ran 6lbs of air. this year i had a guy to explain to me when your tires rinkle on the outside the inside could be folding in not giving you enough traction. i went to 10 lbs and not bragging i trophyed everytime i pulled my 37 wc. |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 8:59pm
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short fat tires don't dig in well no matter the air pressure. you should always look at your holes you spun . the hole should be flat in bottom cupped to much air w shape not enough air. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 9:27pm
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We could never get the D17 to pull very good with 16.9x28s on it. Changed to 13.6x38 and what a difference. I have finally found a real nice set of 15.5x38 that are about 30%. Hope to show the red tractors whose boss next year. ------------- 35WC on steel, B with belly mower, D17 puller, D15 Series II puller, D15 Series II with loader, 608 Lawn Tractor |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 11:22am
It really depends on the weight of the tractor and tire type. I have put the one video of my C way to many times but I pulled at 6 pounds in the video. That was where I pulled it and any of my B's. I did change air pressure up from 6 pounds some but never over 8 pounds. At the end of the video It showed me starting out with the Oliver 77 and it would have been close to 10 pounds. I pulled the 77 as low as 8 pounds. When I loaded the Oliver 88 I pulled between 10 and 12 pounds with it.
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colroy wrote:Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 2:09pm
I have run 18.4X26 on a D17 and had sucess for exactly the reverse of your opinion. Short fat tires can work . I want traction , I don't want to be diggen no friggin holes.... The whole point of point of pulling is distance, right mitch? Go forward not down and you'll be a better puller. If tall narrow tires were the ticket, hot farms and beyond classes would be on pizza cutter looking tires?
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Posted By: Orange1
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 7:44pm
| The point of taller tires is you have more tire on the track from the front to the rear of the tire (length) which is more than inside of tire to outside (width) |