Finally Got An Engine For My 41 WC
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Topic: Finally Got An Engine For My 41 WC
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Subject: Finally Got An Engine For My 41 WC
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 7:36pm
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Well I can finally say that I have a motor for my 1941 WC. I have tossed around huge ideas such as Cummins and big V8's but I found my answer today. My grandpa has the engine and trans out of an IH R160 bus. It is an inline 6 engine with a 4 speed trans and that is about all I know about it. She is gonna be a pulling tractor and I feel that the 6 cyl is not going to be that bad to swap. Do you guys know anything about these engines?? I would love to know more about it. Thanks, Jeremy ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 8:12pm
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http://www.binderbulletin.org/showthread.php?1387-1952-International-truck-6-Cylinder" rel="nofollow -
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http://www.binderbulletin.org/showthread.php?1387-1952-International-truck-6-Cylinder ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 9:01pm
| Why don't you save that for an F20 Farmall? Lots of better choices for a WC...... |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 10:47pm
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Why not go with an AC 6 like a 262 gas combine engine? The IH Black Diamond series were great in their day but not really a first choice for a pulling motor. ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 11:14pm
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Well, I had the motor given to me. It does have a good amount of history in our family and since the platform that it was mounted in is completely unusable it would be nice to see it live on in another form where it could get the attention that it deserved. My grandpa used to work for a coal mine that used it and when they went under they let him have it and it has been in our family for over 45 years. I was talking to him today about it and he couldn't resist telling me the stories of how tough the old motor was and how he would love to see it running and used rather than just sitting and collecting dust. So I told him that my old 41 WC needed a motor and that I could use it and I could see the little smirk on his face. So even if I dont build a super puller out of it I will be preserving a piece of our family history. ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 11:21pm
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Preserving history or destroying it? It's not mine, you should do what you want with it (it's yours) but it seems more like a bad idea than a good one to me. |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 11:30pm
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It may never make it in the tractor. I have to get the blasted thing running first. By that time I may have an AC engine to put in it. But I am going to fix the motor up. ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 8:06am
Well, at the risk of raising the ire of a lot of members, the WC is probably the last model that needs "preserved". Almost anyone that wants one can afford one (or more) because there were so many made that they aren't rare by any stretch of the imagination. There are plenty of restored ones, ones in their working clothes, modfied ones and ones for parts. A WC is a good candidate for an engine swap, I personally would prefer to see an AC in it but a V8 or 6 from anything would be cool by me. If you want a low buck fun puller look for an E combine engine or a complete 226 from a WD45 or D17 and it's easer swap than fabbing mounts for somthing else and you can pull it about anywhere where the modified might not be allowed.
Now the IH Black Diamond engine would be cool in an R series IH truck or an early pickup if you could find one that wasn't a rust bucket, or an F20 would also be a good choice as mentioned before. If I understand you right it's a power unit? If it is just restore it and mount it on a running gear and you have a show piece you can take anywhere.
------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Claus wrote:Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 8:37am
| I parted out a WC that had a green diamond 6cyl. engine in it. The front mount was the only thing that looked cobbled up. I was told the green diamond was used in IH combines. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 8:58am
I know it's off color, sorry I like red, but this has to be one of the cleanest engine repowers I have seen. Farmall Super M and an IH 345 V8, photos taken from a book, I have never seen the tractor in person. 
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 9:29am
The engine and trans are out of a R160. I already have a 100% original WC and will never do any crazy mods to it. I got the 41 WC for $300 and that was with a brand new carb in the box. If I didn't already have a WC I would restore it but since I do I want to have some fun with this one. ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 10:29am
It's yours. Do what you want. This type of conversion is what came out of farm shops of the past. Those old guys were resourceful. They utilized what was available. I say go for it!! Kip ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 11:26am
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There was a tile-ditcher/welder/mechanic at Francesville, In. in the 50's that used Farmall F-20 and 30 rear aseemblies to make 4wd tractors, and used Detroit engines for power. He made one with a large auger to backfill the trenches. It is still seen in fields filling trenches! Others were used for farming, and I remember seeing one hooked to a gang hitch of two disks, probably 14 footers. It's amazing how much cobbled up equipment was used in the early days of farming! Do what you want and dont worry about the "correct police". Sometimes I think their stand is because they dont have much imagination!!!!! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 5:31pm
| I just about bought a L160 truck a couple months ago. I think mid 50's. The cab is in real nice condition. I crawled under it and used a breaker bar to see if it was stuck and she turned. I thought it would be cool to restore. I started searching parts and found that things like brake parts and such would be hard to come by. Then I found another wd45 and forgot about it. |