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Topic: tranny in a 200
Posted By: halstead
Subject: tranny in a 200
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 7:29pm
Are the trannys in the 200s bad because i am thinking of buying one. thanks



Replies:
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 8:34pm
They are gear jumpers for sure! I always thought they were the worse for jumping out of gear, especially the cost reduced tractors


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 7:54am
They only jump out because they are ground them into gear. People problem not gear problem.  MACK


Posted By: AC200Puller
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 8:03am
Like Mac said its not the tractor it is the operators that wreck them. In the 190s and 200 they just gave you a longer shifter which gave the operator more leverage to grind the gears harder. We had a 200 on the farm that had 6500 hours on it and the transmission was good when we traded it in, on the other hand I had an uncle that couldn't make a trasmission in any tractor last over a year .


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 8:11am
Occasionally, I'd shorten the shift lever 4 to 6 inches (on 190/200)and leave the knob off the shift lever. Customer couldn't grind gears as bad that way.


Posted By: richfarmsystem
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 12:00pm
had a 200 with over 7000 hours on it (last 2000 had a loader) and never had one problem with gear jumping. As stated before, mostly operator damage. 


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 3:52pm
I kno grinding hard on them but a guy i have worked for was test driving one on a dealers lot and it wouldnt stay in 3rd for nuthing!!


Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 4:01pm
DougG,
 
So was your guy that you worked for "test" driving a new 200 back in the 70's and he couldn't keep it in 3rd??????? or, was he test driving a abused 200 that the previous owners ground the crap out the transmission because he didn't understand the correct method of shifting a tractor? 

It is a sad commentary when people label AC Tractors as "gear jumpers". As stated above, they only gear jump when they get/have been abused by owners.


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 6:10pm
No it was new, had only been off the truck ,even if it was operator error something shoulda been changed in engineering, no other company had gear jumpers did they?


Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 6:31pm
That is a story I refuse to believe, with all due respect. AC would have not shipped a tractor that wasn't functioning correctly. 


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 6:44pm
I would lean towards the possibility the two 1/2" bolts/nuts on the shifter link were a bit on the tight side requiring the operator to move the shift lever with a little more effort to get it all the way into gear. Regardless, it was a warranty issue if there was anything wrong and it would have been repaired before delivery to the new owner.


Posted By: leoversteeg11
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 8:47pm
My 200 has 12000 hrs on it .Been repainted once ,engine been freshened up once,pto clutch rebuilt once,power director done twice. Transmission aint never been touched and it dont jump out of gear either.Yes it really does have 12000 hrs on it.


Posted By: allis1983
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 11:55am

We have 200 with over 6500hours and its not a gear jumper. 200 are a great tractor in my book.



Posted By: Mike_426
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 1:36pm
My 200 has 10000+ hours motor rebuilt. @ 7700 hours trans all original im the second owner... great tractor

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G, 200, 8050 mfd, D17, 195 chainsaw, c-wide front


Posted By: gcalent
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 4:58pm
I have rebuilt many 180,190,200 trans over the years and most of the problem is not operator error with shifting. Improper lubrication from low oil levels are to blame, the problem is usualy the bearing in the input shaft that supports the main shaft, whics is the pinion shaft. The bearing fails and ruins the end of the shaft allowing it to move, which causes it to jump out of gear. I you check you will find that you seldom find one that jumps out of the lower gears because the higer gears are in the front odf the trans next to the imput shaft.

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Pullin With AC



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