1460 vs N Series
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Topic: 1460 vs N Series
Posted By: shieldslx
Subject: 1460 vs N Series
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 11:09pm
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Hi guys, Has anyone used both, if so which do you prefer?
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 11:23pm
| i own a 1460, and have used an N6, both were awesum machines! i did like the cab and controls in the "N6" better. and like the bigger grain tank! the thing with these to combines is you can combine longer with dew setting in than you can with conventional combines! i am concerned on the enclosed engine versas the open on the 1460. i'm a firm believer in letting an engine breath! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 11:28pm
| one other thing...i can move the unload auger back and forth to fill a truck or wagon without moving the combine. and nowadays, i have 3 IH dealers near-by, and only one AGCO dealer. so chances are they will have the parts i need when i need them! our local AGCO dealer always has to order stuff in! |
Posted By: shieldslx
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 11:47pm
| Thanks for the input. What sort of grain loss did you have? |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 11:52pm
| not much on either machine! you will always get some, but with the proper adjustments, like on any machine, i will say tho, that the loss was alot less than on my JD machines i owned! of course they were conventional machines! i think the rotors get alot more grain threshed out than the conventionals, i'll never go back to a conventional. also....you don't need a chopper when using a rotary AC or IH combine! |
Posted By: shieldslx
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 12:25am
| I REALLY appriciate your input, somone who has run both is just what my brother is looking for. He is. Hoping to get the n5 but is really afraid of how many beans the gleaner head is going to knock off and how it will handle the hills, he cant afford an 800 series head |
Posted By: Mike NEIN
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 2:07pm
| I had an N6 and dad has a 1460. Like Shameless said the cabs and controls are alot nicer in the Gleaner and would run circles around the red one but they are a major pain to work on so I bought a 1680 and love it. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2012 at 1:44am
| i ran the N6 in some pretty steep hills, and it handled just fine! they are a wide stance! and the hills didn't bother that machine a bit! the N5's-N6's are pretty old machines, as are the 1440-1460's, i know there were alot of upgrades to the Gleaners, so have him ask if they were added. about the only thing i can think of on upgrades to the IH's were the elec over hyd controls and the header hieght controls. |
Posted By: Mike56073
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2012 at 6:37am
| I would definately go with the IH, so simple and easy to work on!! Also, like shameless said the dealer support for the red one will be way better than the Gleaner. I can walk into my IH dealer at 9:00 at night in the fall and they will have anything I need for our 1440. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2012 at 7:53am
Many other updates needed to make these more reliable. Unloader auger angle gear box and hydraulic valve for it so they don't creep out without you knowing it. Get rid of the 2 elephant ears for the three or better yet the auger style rotor intake. Get rid of the standard rasp bar rotor for the specialty rotor. Feeder house updates and reverser upgrades if it even has one. I have forgotten lots of the updates. Been a dozen years almost since being a partsman for the red. One thing on the Gleaner beside the tremendous capacity differences is you don't need to change grates and concaves when switching crops and the frame and finals are much heavier and key wear points are heavier on the Gleaner and as mentioned hillsides don't affect them near as much. 1400 series have a small grain tank and extensions over stress the finals and frame. Long round will be a problem. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
SHAMELESS wrote:Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2012 at 7:57am
Other than the top feeder conveyor I think the Gleaner is easier to work on. Having worked at both a Gleaner dealer and then an IH dealer the IH is harder to work on most things. Still Ih has a good machine or at least had a good machine. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2012 at 8:07am
| I've worked on both, and I always thought that the Gleaner was the easiest to work on. Maybe thay was just because I got more practice on Gleaners. Darrel |