Waiting for paint to dry
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Topic: Waiting for paint to dry
Posted By: BrianC
Subject: Waiting for paint to dry
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 5:17pm
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How long does acrylic enamel with hardener take to cure? To the point that you can assemble the painted parts without scraping it off. 88 degreees 75% humidity. It has been 24 hours and is still soft. Sherwin Williams Dimension 5A.
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 5:52pm
| I use Valspar on the can it says you can handle after 15 minutes when hardner is used. I usually clean the gun then assemble the tractor. If its still soft after 24 hoirs your looking at a repaint |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 5:58pm
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Give it more time. I also use the Valspar but usually wait 24 hours. Can't say how long is too long but I'd give it a day or two more before I started stripping it off again. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 6:30pm
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Did you paint with AE without harder and then top it off with a coat adding hardener? It may never harden specially with high humidity. I just did a google search with your question and in one forum a guy said you might have to wait a couple months for it to stiffen up. If it's laid on thick, it may never harden ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 6:45pm
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I'v never painted with 75
I've never painted with75% humidity but something dosn't sound right. I have used Omni single stage polly urithane and also Vancycle for the cheap paint job both with hardner added and theyare ready for assembly the next day or sooner.
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Posted By: Bull
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 8:51pm
| Next day for me as well with AE. |
Posted By: CAdon
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 9:24pm
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also time of day is critical. at morning or evening dewfall i've had "never harden" experiences. indoors (open shed) or out. ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 9:34pm
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Proportions of reducer and hardener, 8P : 2R : 1H per data sheet. I used the cups with ratio marks. I used the 4:1:1 set, only going half way to the hardener line to give a 4 : 1 : 0.5 ratio. I hope I didn't shoot myself in the foot. Data sheet says should be able to buff after 24 hours air dry. After 31 hours is is still a little soft, no way could it be buffed. I am a little concerned. One response was maybe repaint. Yikes! I just remember in the old days with oil based and acrylic enamel waiting days for it to harden. Within a week, some spilled gas used to loosen up the paint. The new paint giving off smells for a long time. |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 11:27pm
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if it is hot there as it is here it wont dry right paint should dry from the inside out if it is to hot it will dry from the outside in and takes along time to dry and you dont get a good shine eather . it forms a seal that dryes on the out side and is still wet under neath.hope you can understand what i mean. ------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2012 at 11:41pm
| Keep it out of direct sunlight, give it a few more days. If you got it on thick it''ll take a while. Did you use high temp reducer? Most automotive paint does not dry fully for 90 days in my opinion, so give it some time youve got nothing to lose. Trev. |
Posted By: John Sealey
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2012 at 8:54am
| This heat and humidity we are having is probably the cause. I painted a few parts a week ago and it was one of those days. The next day you still could not touch it without leaving a finger print. I thought the paint was defective(just a rattle can) and was going to take it back. After a week it finally hardened. I think its like one of the others said if it gets a skin on it and you have layed it on to thick its going to trap the reducer so you will have to wait longer. Pro Painters might chime in here but there is even more variables when your using automotive paint. The data they give you is based on being in a booth with lots of ventilation using the proper reducer for the conditions, flash times, and how many mills thick the paint is. Don't panic and give it a week and keep your fingers crossed. |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2012 at 11:17am
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As with any product, follow the manufacturers directions. There are several excellent websites which address painting and the painting process. http://www.sharpe1.com/sharpe/sharpe.nsf/Page/Ask+Doctor+Gun" rel="nofollow - http://www.sharpe1.com/sharpe/sharpe.nsf/Page/Ask+Doctor+Gun
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Posted By: MBWisc
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2012 at 11:21am
| Try a heat gun or a heat lamp on a small area and see what happens. Bet it hardens. |
Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2012 at 6:55pm
| I have used SW paints for some time and the only suggestion I have is give it a bit more time, air flow is much more important than heat this time of year at hi temps and hi humidity solvents take longer to gas off... if you park a fan to blow across them it will help the cure but it will take longer as your mixing ratio was not as per the data sheet. your nose will tell you when its dry. Something you may not know is that all these acrylic and urathane paints should be reduced first and mixed , (stirred) and then have the hardener added and stirred again. Waaay back when dupont had harders first available for centari problems developed Dupont paint clinics emphasized this procedure for mixing their product. I still follow it no matter whos product/ system I use. These components chemically link better after reduction. . |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2012 at 7:58pm
Before and after pictures. It is orange again. Ran out of time, did not reinstall the cultivators, headlights or wiring. Since paint was still hardening, did not strap down hood. New wheels, tires, seat, hood, seat back, battery box, toolbox. Used fenders, grill and gas tank reworked. New alternator. 72" track, corn was at 36 inches I guess.   |
Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2012 at 9:10pm
| That looks great, very nice, very orange and very stabil with that wide stance. |
Posted By: Flint23
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2012 at 1:54am
Looking good.. ------------- been there done that, not doing it again... |