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Topic: Wanting a smaller tractor, not sure which CUT/SCUT
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Subject: Wanting a smaller tractor, not sure which CUT/SCUT
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 6:26pm
I'd like to pickup a smaller tractor about 20 to 25 hp range plus or minus.

I don't want to spend 20 grand on a new Kubota so that is out of the question.

The AC-5020 is a Hinomoto, it is my understanding that parts can be difficult to come by.


I've considered a CaseIH 245 or 235.  But these are really just a Mitsubishi with red paint. I'm unsure of parts availability.

There's a good, from my research, Yanmar dealer in my area that has US refurbed units for what appears to be good prices.  Should I just get a Yanmar?

Thanks


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AC - WD
JD - 650



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Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 7:45pm

a john deere 850 or 950 is a good tractor.. maybe a 770. i have had experience with them and they are good little tractors made in late 70's and 80's.. they have a 3 cylinder yanmar in them and they run great..



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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow


Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by acwdwcman acwdwcman wrote:

a john deere 850 or 950 is a good tractor.. maybe a 770. i have had experience with them and they are good little tractors made in late 70's and 80's.. they have a 3 cylinder yanmar in them and they run great..



I have heard those JD's are good.  Maybe I'd be better of with a plain ole Yanmar and not pay the extra for the Deere logo on the front?

In my opinion it's not easy to select a good machine in that HP range.  I'm leery of hinomoto....iseki...etc.


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AC - WD
JD - 650


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 8:23pm
I have a Mahindra 2015 that I like very much. It's pretty much a Cub Cadet built under license. Lift ratings are typically higher than comparable CUT's

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 8:37pm
I have a Yanmar YM2000  (24 hp) gray market that I bought in '98 and have been very happy with it.  Have had virtually no problems.  It has the 2 cylinder diesel engine which is very good on fuel usage.  I think mine was manufactured somewhere in the mid 70's.
It has a compression release so a good battery is necessary for cold weather starting as the engine must be spun some to warm before firing.  I would definitely buy another if I was needing one.  Tim


Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 1:30pm
I talked to a couple of CaseIH dealers and was told that parts can be had for the little 200 series tractors.

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AC - WD
JD - 650


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 1:32pm
Hard to beat an old L series Kubota, Like a L185, or L225.  None of the new digital crap, to go bad.


Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 2:02pm
I have a 2004 John Deere 4310 I bought new (32 HP).  It is a hydro and 4WD, the engine is Yanmar but the rest of the tractor is not, some Deere compacts are all Yanmar.  I have pulled a 6 foot Bush Hog, a 7 foot blade and a 7 foot box blade with it.  It has a 6 foot mid mount mower.  I have been very happy with mine.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by Claus Claus wrote:

I have a 2004 John Deere 4310 I bought new (32 HP).  It is a hydro and 4WD, the engine is Yanmar but the rest of the tractor is not, some Deere compacts are all Yanmar.  I have pulled a 6 foot Bush Hog, a 7 foot blade and a 7 foot box blade with it.  It has a 6 foot mid mount mower.  I have been very happy with mine.


My brother has one of them 43 series tractors, good enough, but if one component in that liquid crystal dash goes, there's a $2000+ bill!


Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 6:38pm
My dash got replaced under warranty at 30 hours, the tach was going backwards.  These tractors, mine included, tend to fog the dash up when they get warmed up.  Don't know why, it's a little annoying but not a real bad problem.


Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 7:57pm
Claus I have a 2006 4320 with 1700 hr's on it and haven't had any problems.


Posted By: RPSallispullinmd
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 9:54pm
I have 2 4710's one is an 2003 and one 2004 and I have a combined hours of 5800 hrs and the are worked hard with loaders in my excavation business an have had very little trouble with them and would recommend to anyone.I also like my 2004 2210.


Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 7:07am
You don't say want all you want to do with it --- so that makes a difference. We have a AC5030 for our small tractor and it is great.  We use it for mowing horse trails in woods with a 5' bush hog, mowing yard with a 7' finish mower, spraying with a 3pt sprayer, and many odd jobs.  It's my wife's tractor and she loves it --  thrifty on diesel fuel, too.


Posted By: CTD03
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 7:18am
I have a 2000 John Deere 4200 front end loader,back blade, back hoe, front snow plow loader mount, mower deck, 5' brush hog.    Any ways that is a 24hp hydro and it gets worked all the time. It's Yanmar engine.   Great tractor .


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 7:42am
I have an AC 5020, and love it.  Normally it just cuts the grass with a 6' woods 3. mower.  I have the brush hog on it and have ben clearing out some woods recently.  Haven't had many problems.  Lost the water pump once and got a new one from a  supplier on here.
 
Keep an eye out for a low hours one and you should be good to go!


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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2012 at 4:46pm
So make a list of everything you think you'd ever want to do with it...  without criteria, it's kinda hard to discuss the possibilities...


Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2012 at 5:28pm
What's wrong with a nice Allis B with a 3 pint kit on it?
I have one, use it all the time. Bill B


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Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152


Posted By: Reed(UT)
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2012 at 8:38pm
I have had a few Yanmars over the years - used to buy and sell them (grey market). There is decent parts availability if you pay attention to what model you get. I think they are solid units. i kept a YM2610D - about 34 HP (the first part of the model number is the engine power, in kilowatts. You multiply by 1.34 to get HP, but you aren't talking draw-bar HP)

I would look for one w/ power steering - it makes a world of difference. Another feature I would definitely look for is a power-shift model.

You should be able to get a good one for $4000-$12000 depending on size, condition, 4x4, loader, etc.

Watch for the ones reconditioned in Vietnam - i would steer clear...


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2 WD45s, 190XT III, 72 AllCrop, Bunch of snap-coupler stuff. Looking for a B and CA


Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2012 at 9:30am
Originally posted by DaveKamp DaveKamp wrote:

So make a list of everything you think you'd ever want to do with it...  without criteria, it's kinda hard to discuss the possibilities...


The main use will be with a finish mower and box blade to maintain a road. 

Here's the big question.  Do I buy a used Kubota or Kioti or a USA refurbished Yanmar with a warranty???


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AC - WD
JD - 650



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