Question for Turbo Till Owners or Similar
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Topic: Question for Turbo Till Owners or Similar
Posted By: Amos
Subject: Question for Turbo Till Owners or Similar
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2012 at 6:59pm
| I am seriously concidering purchasing a Great Plains Turbo Till or similar implement. If you have used one what did you find it left the soil like for level? Could you plant behind it without another implement (cultivator) pass? How much speed is required to get the machine to do a nice job? Will 5 mph be sufficient or 7.5? About how much power do I need to pull a 24' model? |
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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2012 at 7:19pm
| I have worked for my nephew pulling his Salford, left a nice seedbed on previously worked ground, ended up being a little dry after that cause it didn't rain, also did some unworked cornstalks, did those twice and seemed to be pretty good, went about 9mph with a 35 foot, I think it really depends on the soil condition you start with. |
Posted By: ACscott
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2012 at 8:58pm
| We have a case 330 turbo and we found it worked best at 8-9 mph |
Posted By: Russ-neia
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2012 at 9:47pm
At those speeds I'd want to push it in front of the tractor so I didn't have to bounce over everything before it was leveled! ------------- The innovators offer what others will imitate. |
ACscott wrote:Posted By: ACscott
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2012 at 10:18pm
| Yes it can get pretty rough in fall worked ground but you just slow it down to 7-7.5. In the notilled ground it's a pretty smooth ride. Also russ that looks like a very nice 8010 you have, would make an ideal spray tractor. |
Posted By: ALLISMAN32
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2012 at 10:42pm
| At work we sell turbo tills and you are probably going to need to run 8 mph plus. You should plan on needing 10 horse per foot with a turbo till.The gang style turbo blades will give you a much better consistent depth of cut than the individual blade system on a salford. Great plains came out this spring/summer with a tool now called a turbo-max. Its similar to a turbo till other than the turbo blade gangs have cylinders on them that allow you to change the angle of cut makiing them cut aggresively and throw a little dirt or just cut the top 2 inches of your seedbed.If you are looking for a used turbo till i think the market will be saturated,once more people demo a turbo max. |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 9:17am
| A local guy runs about a 24ft behind his big 300hp JD with triples. I always thought it was hp overkill. Eventually he told me the big tractor was all about the ride. He figured it worked best at 9 - 10 mph. Was just too darn rough riding with the small 180hp fwa tractor. |
Posted By: David (in Mi.)
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 6:54am
| I bought a Krause accelerator last fall, 25 ft. i pull with 250 hp. 8400 john deere. It is all she will do to pull it in the fall at 8 mph about 3 to 4 inchs deep in corn stalks. But i love the machine, used in fresh corn stalks one in the fall, and one time in the same stalks in the spring , then drilled soys in spring. Heavy piece of equipment, and pricey also, but heavy, heavy duty. We also used it in fall on soys stubble, then drilled wheat last fall, really liked that also, could hold depth well and made for a really nice seedbed for wheat. |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 10:32am
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Interesting implement. Do you need lighter soils for it to work?? I can't help but wonder if there wouldn't be problems running it in heavier soils with some clay in them--------especially if the soil was on the wet side as it so often is in the fall.
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Posted By: MI8050
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 12:25pm
| I'm yet to see where the benefit comes from an expensive reinvented wheel. If a disk is one of the top tools for soil compaction the vertical tillage tool must be a close second. It appears that straight "turbo" blades on a disk frame are a quick way for implement makers to make serious profit from old engineering. I would like to see one work over many years to see what the real advantage is, I can see it being good for a short term fix for rough fields and such but so would a disk and optimizer. |
Posted By: ACscott
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 12:30pm
| Mi8050, I do agree with you, our case 330 is pretty much a glorified disc, but it is so much easier to keep it consistant at a shallower depth in the spring. After record rain fall last year lets say some fields were a little less that ideal to notill into and this is where this tool shines. |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 4:47pm
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Buy a disc put coulters or the half coned razer blades on it, drive about 8 mph. Put the 50,000.00 in your pocket that you didnt spend on one of those new tools. And you will be ahead of the game. I did it and it works well. If you want to work the ground,pull a disc,or field cultivator. We use ours alot. IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |