OT Round bale prices
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Topic: OT Round bale prices
Posted By: Hurst
Subject: OT Round bale prices
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 9:48pm
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Just wondering if someone can give me an idea of what net wrapped mixed grass w/ clover 4x5 bales would be bringing this year. I'm in central Kentucky. I am trying to sell some extras I just baled, no rain and pretty clean stuff, just extra. They'd be sold out of the field me loading. I told one friend of mine $16 per bale, just wanted to see if that sounds too far off? I know who I sell them to now will either have to store them or be able to make money off of them after storing them through the summer/fall, and I'm just trying to cover my costs and make a little to pay for the money I have in the bales for the farm, not trying to screw someone over or get rich. Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
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Posted By: AMB(wcIL)
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 9:52pm
| Grass in west central IL would sell $45-65 in my area, alfalfa/red clover $65+. Andy |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:02pm
I could almost afford to pay a buddy to haul it there for those prices! It might be hard to get in 5 trips before the next rain hits though... Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:05pm
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I would think the hay is worth more than $6. around here $10 might not buy the baling and wrap. And somebody had to cut it and rake it too.
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Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:07pm
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$16, not $6. $6 might cover my overhead costs (fuel, labor, net) but not equipment depreciation and maintenance. Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:08pm
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I also get my net wrap at a pretty good discount from a buddy, $281 plus tax for a 12,000 ft role of Deere Edge-to-Edge 48" wrap, so that means I have about $0.75 per bale in wrap. Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:10pm
That's what I'm saying, it costs $10 to have somebody bale and wrap it, so you are getting $6 to cut and rake it and the hay is free. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:25pm
I see what you're saying now. I don't think have quite that much tied (no pun intended  ) into them. We do all the stuff ourselves, and already have the equipment to put up hay for the farm. This is just some extra stuff that we don't have room/need. I wouldn't have baled this if I had known I was going to be able to bale my uncle's really nice field by our farm this summer (beautiful grass and red clover mix). As far as my costs go, I'd say there's a total of about 25 man hours in this field from cutting, fluffing, raking, and baling, 40 gallons of diesel at most, and then a little less than 1/3 of a roll of net, so all said that's about $500 of direct costs in the hay at most. If I hired it out, I can believe that someone would charge $10 to rake and bale it. Balers are not cheap to keep running! I'm definitely aiming for the lower end of the price spectrum because I want it out of here and gone ASAP as we have yearling thoroughbreds in the field and dad isn't a big fan of having bales in the field with horses. Hurst
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Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:29pm
| I think at $16 a bale a guy from up here could buy it, send a semi down there, bring it here, rebale it into small bales, sell it and still make money, if they are wound tight. |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:35pm
| BTW, the cheapest that I have been able to buy a large round of grass was $40 at auction or directly from the seller. And they were light. |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:46pm
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Just so you don't think I'm too crazy, here is an example of what people are selling for on craigslist around here:
http://lexington.craigslist.org/grd/3064405144.html" rel="nofollow - http://lexington.craigslist.org/grd/3064405144.html Maybe a few of us should get together and start a hay business buying hay here and shipping it up to you guys?!? If I had a way to haul them, I'd seriously consider selling it out of state for that kind of money! In all seriousness, if anyone on here wants to send a couple semi's down here, I'd be happy to work something out. Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:56pm
| I would put a pencil to it to get a a better of just how much could be made if I wasn't having back problems (I was at the hospital in the outpatient surgery today). I would have to hire more help. I do know a couple of guys who may be interested in going into buying hay down there. I would need to know how much they weigh per bale. |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 11:09pm
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I'm not sure how I'd weigh them off the top of my head... any suggestions for a quick way to get a weight? Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: David G.
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 11:18pm
| Hurst, over here in western Ky even common hay will sell for $20-$25 per roll. I would say your hay is worth a minimum of $30 per roll. |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 11:20pm
| Most around here will take a truck and trailer to the grain elevator for an empty weight then go put 2 or more round bales on. Take it back to the elevator for a loaded weight, devide by the number of bales for a average weight. But don't go get a weight just for me. I haven't talked witha anyone about this yet. You probably have to move them before I could get anything set up. |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:23am
Grain elevator, fertilizer company, co-op... my old boss lived about three miles from a limestone quarry, so that's where we usually went. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Hurst wrote:Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:51am
| Not the easiest comparison, but 90% of all our hay is sold at $3.50/ bale, we help load their truck. 35 lb bales. Now if it would only stop raining we could start! |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 4:53pm
| Hurst-I don't live too far from you(Nicholasville) and I guess we just live in the wrong part of the US. I had the best hay and best yields this year than ever before. Got it all baled in perfect shape with no rain and the old round baler ran perfect. I have way too much hay with alot left over from last year. The problem is that just about everyone has alot of hay this year. I would like to sell some also but there are no buyers and horse farms pretty much demand square bales which I don't have. Sure be nice to get the kind of prices mentioned. Good luck and hope you get some sold !!!!! |
Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 4:56pm
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i just sold 38 rolls of red clover fescue, mix here at horse cave, for $30 a roll string tied 6x6, out of the field ------------- i like old tractors of all colors |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 6:27pm
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6x6 is probably about 2x the weight I have in mine, so it sounds like I am about right for this area then. I know what you mean, central Kentucky is flooding in hay this year, especially since we had a mild winter and early spring. This is the earliest we have been done baling all of our grass in as long as myself or my Dad can remember. Got one guy that is supposed to try to come by tonight to take a look at the rolls. Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 6:31pm
| Ky wonder---Just curious what brand and model round baler makes a 6x6 bale? |
Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 10:14pm
| If all you can get is $16 a bale, it is worth your time to unroll them on the field they came from and grind them up with a bush hog to return the nutrients to your own soil, rather than sell them cheaply and basically give your fertility to someone else. I know it seems like hay grows for free, but decent yields do not last forever if you don't fertilize or return the nutrients to the same ground that the hay is grown on. Don't ask me how I know... |
Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 7:35pm
| Hurst, I agree with David. Here around Elizabethtown I get $30 out of the field for 5x5 string tied and my brother gets the same for net tied. We could get more, but like you we sell to people we know and repeat customers so we don't get as much as some others do. Now alfalfa is different. Baled just under 2000 small square bales of second cutting this week. Most of it going to Ga. Some in the barn for sale this winter. |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 8:32pm
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Well I didn't get them sold at $16, my buddy said he is out of room for mixed grass hay but wishes he could use it as it's good grass. I spent all afternoon moving them out of the field and putting them in storage, so now I have a little time to play and get more money. I'll probably try to shoot for around $25 per bale now after hearing what you all have said. Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 9:19pm
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my son has a bailing service, he gets 10 dollars a bale when he bales with his round baler. 16 wouldnt be worth the time,all you would be doing is wearing your equipment out selling round bales for 16. But I dont know anything about the baling buisness nor do I want to....lol IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 3:32pm
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I guess I need to ask to know for sure, but I'm sure wife's uncle who milks cows near Dayton Oh said he was paying $150 per bale. Maybe it was alfalfa? ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 5:09pm
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Hurst --- location, location, location ----- lot's of hay around central Ky this year and prices reflect that. Same way last year --- $16 for 4X5 net wrap grass is probably a little on the low side --- but it is only worth what a buyer will pay for it. Folks in this area think with the wet , moderate winter we had, there will be 2nd, and 3rd cuttings - holds prices down --until it stops raining - LOL.
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Posted By: Russ SCPA
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 6:11pm
| Just priced out a large order out this afternoon, 4 feet wide 56 inches tall, average weight per bale 844 # brome grass boot stage, net wrap FOB $140/ton |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 11:31am
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I just spoke with a friend who said he paid $26 per bale to have hay swathed raked and baled. Baling only, a single windrow, I charge $15/bale. Double windrow $12/bale. This is includes fuel and twine. Not sure how much to charge for small square wire tied bales. Last year, I sold 6x5 round bales for $100 each. Prairie hay bales weighed 1690# and the bermuda weighed 1500#, on average. |
Posted By: scott
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 12:36pm
| 715 lb round bales of mixed grasses and alfalfa will sell for $30 each around here in Michigan. A business contact says he pays about $7 a square bale in Rhode Island. |
Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 12:43pm
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Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 1:28pm
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I read through here and I think 4X5 round bales of grass / clover mix around here (northwestern Wisconsin) would sell in the $25-$40 range depending on.
I have a baleing service, to make 4X5 round bales I think I charge $8 to $9 depending on the quantity. 4X6 are $10-11. I buy net wrap by the pallet, I think it's about $245-260 per roll for 12,000 foot from Deere. I buy a new Deere 468 baler every year in a half to two years depending on use but I try to trade them off in the 12,000-14,000 bale count. It usually costs me $1.10 to $1.40 per bale to trade them. At that rate I buy little to no parts or do much maintenance other than pump a few tubes of grease in them and change pins in the belts every 1500-2000 bales.
I run 2 large square balers, both Agco/Hesston 3X3 machines, it's $1.40 to $1.25 per foot of bale comeing out the end, smaller jobs cost a bit more, great going in heavy straw and I'll charge a little less.
I've got a couple hay wrappers, we wrap alot of hay for silage bales, here it's tough to get alfalfa dry and it's mainly a dairy area.
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Posted By: farminharmon
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 1:48pm
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John Deere 335 bales (4x4) here in Southwest Virginia I sell for $30/each. Have gotten as much as $50 in drought years. Bale around 2500 every year. Plus 5000 square bales at $5/bale. ------------- B110 CA D10II (2)D12III 5040 5050 6080 170 JD5205 Kubota M9000 Kubota M95S |