gleaner power fold ladder????
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Topic: gleaner power fold ladder????
Posted By: clint
Subject: gleaner power fold ladder????
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 9:00am
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i just bought an 84 L3 and would like to build or put on a power fold ladder.
thoughts would be- add the factory setup used if anybody has one.
or
use a couple tiny cyl i have from other sprayers and engineer this to plum into the reel height port for use in corn
does anybody have a used system sitting on a scrap machine? ------------- Our farms stuff: agco gt55, AA 8775, 8765, 6080, 185, 180, 175, 170, d15, d14, d14, wd, wd, wd, g, F3, L3, R62 |
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Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 9:08am
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The newer gleaners used a electric actuator for a ladder raise, two electric wires are a lot easier to run then hydraulic hoses. I think new actuators are around $400-450
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Posted By: clint
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 9:21am
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dale- mind if i give you a call? ------------- Our farms stuff: agco gt55, AA 8775, 8765, 6080, 185, 180, 175, 170, d15, d14, d14, wd, wd, wd, g, F3, L3, R62 |
Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 9:22am
| No Problem. 800-996-2937 office or 740-505-0227 Cell |
Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 11:43am
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I think the factory power fold was one electic actuator. The switch was down by the header height control. ------------- ryan 1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62 |
Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 12:46pm
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We had a Gleaner R62, and it did not have the ladder lift. I wanted to put one on but never did. The ones I seen used an electric actuator.
I just bought a new seed tender cart and it uses an electric actuator, but it's an electric pump and a small hyd cylinder all self contained unit to raise the auger. I can look at it and get you the brand and model, etc if it's something that intrests you, just send a PM.
I'm sure they are both pretty spendy items. I wonder how a cheap small light duity electric winch would work from an ATV or something with a little fabrication.
------------- "see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet" |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 12:52pm
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Surplus Center in Lincoln, Ne has actuators, maybe something that would work.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 10:17pm
| I bought a small 12V wench, mounted on grain bin. Won't win a beauty contest, but does the job. MACK |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 26 May 2012 at 7:36am
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My neighbor threw a new one for a dish antenna in the back of my van, I haven't even looked at it, don't know what the voltage is for it. I guess I will have to open the box and have a look at it. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 10:31pm
| I am with Mack. Those cheapo $50 winches can do a lot. One of our L2s had the manual/cable engage for the unloading auger. The cable broke, I tried to repair it, broke it again. AGCO wanted $96 for the cable. I put a $50 HF winch in its place, and swapped the belt to the other side of the idler, now I goose the button, auger starts, push the other button, it shuts off. Aint exactly factory pretty, but it works. |
Posted By: jjpetrich
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 7:40am
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It would be best to go electric then with the ladder down to make sure that a spacer is under the cylinder so that if someone steps on it it doest break, been seeing that alot on the s77's. ------------- On the farm wd,wd45,180,200,7020,8010,8050,f,L2,2 b engines |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 7:54am
| Why don't you just modify the ladder so it doesn't need to be folded up all the time?? You'll soon find out there are times you simply need to get in and out of the cab quickly and often, and there you go....wait for the d#$% ladder to go down and back up.....and then, when the electric motor fails, you spend more $$$$ to keep it working. |
Posted By: CORLEWFARM
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 8:31am
| i guess you have a 4 row head,so just open up the field with the ladder up then leave it down the rest of the time |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 6:50am
I only fold it up when I store the combine because of space issues and because I left the ladder down on my L2 once and hooked it with another piece of equipment  ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
DrAllis wrote:Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 8:07am
| You're taxing my memory, but I think all we did was remove the rubber stops to allow the ladder to swing in closer to the tire. I think we had to trim off some steel in the stop area too. Yes, it makes the climbing angle a little harder, but the ladder sticks waaaaaay out farther than it really needs to be knocking down the next row of corn. |
Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 3:11pm
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Dad took and cut the ladder on an F we had and welded it back with less of an angle. It made it close to the tire but didn't have to raise it all the time. ------------- On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's) |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 6:56am
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I just want my ladder to fold out of the way so I don't ever hook it again like I did on my L2. The L2 ladder must be half the weight of the R52. I can barely lift it on the R52. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 7:10am
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I will take a picture tonight of my R62 ladder. It has the power fold ------------- On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's) |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 8:47pm
This might be EXACTLY why the previous owner of our F2 tapped into the "reel" lift circuit for his/now our ladder lift ???
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 8:51pm
| Clint, just to verify, just what corn head are you running on your "new to you" machine? |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 11:29pm
| My 860 cotton stripper (K2 chassis) has a rope on the ladder and a latch up top. Just pull it up, or let it down manually. No motors to fail. |
Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 7:24am
  ------------- On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's) |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2019 at 12:43pm
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IMO call around to a salvage yard and get the OEM setup. affordable, warm fuzzy feeling of OEM components. :) ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: AC 426 power
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 6:12pm
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 10:08pm
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The N6 had two switches. One in the cab and a second one under the tin work on the left side. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 6:51am
------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 11:03am
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My R62 has 2 switches also. There is 1 in the cab and another by the base of the unloading auger. ------------- On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's) |