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Are my eyes lying to me?? 190 Rearend?

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Topic: Are my eyes lying to me?? 190 Rearend?
Posted By: Orange Blood
Subject: Are my eyes lying to me?? 190 Rearend?
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 7:34pm
Hey guys, 

I just don't think this is a  One Ninety, or 200 Rear End, What do you think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-190-190XT-200-Tractor-Transmission-and-Rearend-/120915013037?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2718adad#ht_500wt_1202" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-190-190XT-200-Tractor-Transmission-and-Rearend-/120915013037?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2718adad#ht_500wt_1202


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Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 7:58pm
  no not lying --we have 190 rebuilt with new seals etc.ready to install   pick up here
   us30 northern ind call 1-574-342-4545  3 1/4" axles


Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 8:38pm
That's a 180,185 looks like to me

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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 8:42pm
Well the actual rear looks 190ish, but the shift tower, is not.

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Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7


Posted By: Troy
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 8:46pm
it is a late 190 or 200 rear end but has the 185 shift cover.


Posted By: AaronH
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 9:59pm
So, by the looks of this, you can put the 190-200 rearend on a smaller 100 series tractor? I am having a hard time seeing that it either does or doesnt have straight axels. Looks like it....


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 11:00pm
Brakes are exposed, so it is a straight axle.....the gear shift threw me off too, but i have seen another pic of a 190 with a gear shift like that.....

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Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 11:30pm
Nothing like my 190XT rear end and trans.


Posted By: ALLISMAN32
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 11:44pm
Looks to me like someone put a late 190 or 200 rearend in their 180 or 185 tractor. Would be interesting to see more pictures of Johnny Cash's cadillac tractor.


Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 6:38am
The tractor must be a 180 or 185.The foot rests,seat,brakes,brake lock and gear shift are all 180 or 185.The rear end is either 190 or 200.It would be a bit of a nightmare to get the hydraulics and lever linkage rigged up.You can see the hydraulic hoses strung along to the rear of the tractor.


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 6:48am
Could be D19 with 180 gear shift.  MACK


Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 8:55pm
That is not a 190 or 200. They had platforms and drop boxes. The seat mounted on the fuel tank and the platform. The brakes are wrong as well as the shift cover. I guess It should say everything is wrong. It looks nothing like a 190 or 200, 
It look like a a 180 or 185


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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:00pm
I think Mack nailed it....can't be a 180/185 rear end because of the brakes, D19 used a top plate like that.....it is a D182 1/2!

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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:22pm
Can't be a D-19 rear with the 3 1/4" axles. It is a one ninety rear but bolted to a 0ne- eighty or 185 transmission and I assume one eighty or 185 tractor.

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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by Calvin Schmidt Calvin Schmidt wrote:

Can't be a D-19 rear with the 3 1/4" axles. It is a one ninety rear but bolted to a 0ne- eighty or 185 transmission and I assume one eighty or 185 tractor.
I'm not familiar with the top of the 190 since mine has a cab covering up things...so I will bow to your wisdom Cal! All I know is that it is not a 180/185 rearend...

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