A rare attachment. B series L&G trencher
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Topic: A rare attachment. B series L&G trencher
Posted By: split51
Subject: A rare attachment. B series L&G trencher
Date Posted: 01 May 2012 at 10:41pm
I picked this up from Clist last week. A trencher for a B series L&G. It has set outside for along time but doesnt look to have much use. The cutting teeth and sprockets look great


------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo
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Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 01 May 2012 at 10:46pm
I wrote down the handle # you gave us to look at the ones I have but I keep forgetting to take the paper outside with me. I'll try to do that tom.
Still is an awesome find.....
------------- Yea, I can fix that.....
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Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 01 May 2012 at 11:23pm
Saw your post on SimpleTractors. Thats one awesome find. I thought your username looked familiar. I go by Chris727 over there.
------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 01 May 2012 at 11:25pm
Would like to see it on a tractor...didn't know they had that capability!
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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 7:17am
Here is a Link to 'B' Series Attachments 'Trencher" on SimpleTractors: Gary http://www.simpletractors.com/attachments/trencher.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.simpletractors.com/attachments/trencher.htm
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Posted By: Justin Widlund (IA)
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 9:37am
Great find. I have only seen them in literature before.
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 1:50pm
A cursory look at the pix, and limited detail, but from what I see, it very well may be a GroundSaw.
If you do a web-search, you'll find that the Groundsaw brand name appears as a current product company, but many years back, there was a totally different company called Hawk-Bilt, out of Eagle Grove, and later Vinton, Iowa. They manufactured some of the earliest chain-trenchers... the two stoutest units were fitted to either B-10's or IH Cub Cadets.
An interesting note here- Vermeer BOUGHT IH Cub Cadets, and fitted them with GroundSaw trenchers, and re-branded the unit with Vermeer colors. Vermeer still manufactures trenchers at their Pella, Iowa facility.
http://www.simpletractors.com/attachments/trencher.htm
Paul Funk's GroundSaw trencher site has some great info: http://www.cubcadetman.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=7&Itemid=61
Noel Black, of Rutledge, Tennesee has a collection of GroundSaw trenchers, I believe his are earlier than Paul's by a year or two. Eric Tyler, in New Hampshire also has a few- these three guys could answer most any historical or what-about question you'll encounter.
I'm familiar with them, because I helped these guys rescue a few. They're amazingly light...
... in comparison to a D17 with loaded tires, backhoe, and front end loader with a bucket full of wet manure...
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Posted By: tractorchuckie
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 6:05pm
here some pic's from an Simplicity dealer book from nov 15 1968 
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Posted By: tractorchuckie
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 6:06pm

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Posted By: tractorchuckie
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 6:06pm

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Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 6:15pm
It is a hawk-bilt groundsaw trencher. Here is what is left of the decal on the top.

------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo
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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 8:20pm
Looks nice. Never knew they made anything like that. Nice find!
------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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