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Topic: Square head nuts and bolts
Posted By: BrianC
Subject: Square head nuts and bolts
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 1:33pm
I am having a hard time finding square head hardware.
Are there good online sources?  Fastenal wants $5.15
for a (single) 1/2-13 x 1" grade 5 , but just $0.65 for
a grade 2.



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Posted By: bauerd44
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 2:07pm
I just found a few places that carry square head bolts in various grades.  See below.
 
http://www.earnestmachine.com/TopProducts/SquareHeadNuts_Bolts.prod" rel="nofollow - http://www.earnestmachine.com/TopProducts/SquareHeadNuts_Bolts.prod
 
http://nationalbolt.thomasnet.com/viewitems/square-head-bolts/square-head-bolts-2" rel="nofollow - http://nationalbolt.thomasnet.com/viewitems/square-head-bolts/square-head-bolts-2
 
http://www.gatewayfasteners.com/square-head-machine-bolts-grade-c-698_829_812.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.gatewayfasteners.com/square-head-machine-bolts-grade-c-698_829_812.html
 
This is just a few I found.  Just do a search for Grade 5 square head bolts.
 
Dale


Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 2:08pm
restored a case trip plow last summer which had all square head bolts, didn't have much luck finding much of anything. the grade 8 bolts I needed were $36 apiece from fastenal, mcmaster-carr had them but wasn't much cheaper. I don't understand is it that much more work to make a square head instead of a hex head?

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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 2:44pm
Bill, did that Case plow originallly come with Gr 8 Bolts?
Sounds like overkill, maybe?
I would guess Gr 8 square head bolts and nuts would be just a bit rare!


Posted By: mnoonan-NEWI
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 5:25pm
McMaster-Carr

http://www.mcmaster.com/#square-head-specialty-bolts/=gwo0ia" rel="nofollow - http://www.mcmaster.com/#square-head-specialty-bolts/=gwo0ia


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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:08pm
You have to shop a round to find some items. I think grade 8 would be rare.
My neighbor needed som special bolt for a JD that he modified. Fastenal wanted $9.95 each and had to order them. He made a few phone call and found them at a Case-IH dealer for $.95 each in stock. cost hi $9.00 instead of $90.00. Bob


Posted By: hamman01
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:24pm
Here in N. Mich. we have Mid State Bolt and screw. They have a web site. You might be able to get them there.


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by hamman01 hamman01 wrote:

Here in N. Mich. we have Mid State Bolt and screw. They have a web site. You might be able to get them there.

There is one on the west side of Lansing also. Prices are much more reasonable than Fastenal.

Dusty





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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 1:33pm
Trouble with Fastenall is when they add on shipping for the dang things after the fact of the price , so like the hela-coils I bought for $1.00 each came to $12 for shipping , seeing as they were mailed in a flat pack for less than $2.00

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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by hamman01 hamman01 wrote:

Here in N. Mich. we have Mid State Bolt and screw. They have a web site. You might be able to get them there.
 
I second this, used there bolts on the WC, can't remember the cost though.


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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 2:12pm
Makes me feel lucky as I have a local hardware store (old fashion) that still has bins full of them although they may be only grade 2-- not sure.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:43pm
I got the ones I needed through Lowes, had them in bins and galvanized to boot.  For longer than they had I bought nuts and all thread, ground down the galvanize and welded then painted the weld with zinc chromate spray primer.


Posted By: Redwood
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 7:00pm
I just had a quote for all of the WC square head bolts.  We have a fastenal store near us so there is now shipping cost the quote came to $35.00 for all of them.  I know the specs are correct.  They average just over one dollar a bolt all number twos.  I was going to get one grade 8 bolt and it was $30.00 on its own.  There does seem to be a big jump in value which seems to indicate they will make some of these but don't stock them.  Grade 8 bolts aren't too cheap for large size bolt for hex head.
Over all not too bad considering that in 40 years I dare you to try to find any parts for something you buy today.  Some TV's they don't make replacement parts now right off the shelf.
I do think its worth the cost if your restoring but if its a work tractor the hex head from the stock in our barn would be going in.  Which is kinda funny since I've replaced a lot of hex head with square heads over the years because we had them.
If you have a few to order ask for a quote.



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