sears branded AC?
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Topic: sears branded AC?
Posted By: CAdon
Subject: sears branded AC?
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:03pm
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CA progress is halted waiting for parts so... got this old garden tractor from xlnt neighbor who got it for free. used till tire blew then has sat for a year. has pedal operated front blade lift; plan to add hydraulic but no existing pto/pump. anyway, finally looked at it close and discovered brushed yellow paint over abundant suspicious orange color. label says sears     suburban 12 but could this be allis built?will start cleanup tomorrow & look for id #s, but thought maybe somebody might recognize it by sight. ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:14pm
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The Allis garden tractors of that era were actually yellow.....the Simplicity counterparts were the orange ones.....weird huh? ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:26pm
try simpletractors.com i think some of sears were simplicity rebranded, or slightly modified. they have a cross reference. there are several similarities between yours and simp or allis.  ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:35pm
| That vintage Sears were still made by David Bradley, I don't think any were AC. Simplicity made tractors for Monky Ward, infact I think it was Wards that talked Simplicity into making garden tractors in the first place , they making other things at that time. Don |
Posted By: CAdon
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:40pm
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first i've seen with a side pulley (non vertical). any clues to how to set up a power lift? primary user joyce has a weak right leg. ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:54pm
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I would rig up a lever lift.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 9:56pm
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Yes,Wards talked Simplicity into making garden tractors in the first place. They were the 2 wheeled ones.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CAdon
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 10:07pm
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blade assembly has david bradley nameplate, i thot just the implement mfr. lever lift is a good 2nd option... especially if assisted by existing foot lift. but the lady (joyce) works hard, so wanna spoil her if i can with a power assist. ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 11:53pm
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Not an Allis or Simplicity. The Sears suburbans were built by David-Bradley until 1966 or thereabouts. I believe at that time Bradley was acquired by Roper who continued as AYP and is now owned by Husquavarna. These were rugged old tractors but lacked the refined engineering of the AC-Simplicity tractor line. ------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 12:57am
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AC mowerguy beat me to it. Most older Sears tractors were built by Roper. I may be wrong but I believe David Bradly was a Sears brand and the actual machine was build buy other companies for Sears. There was very little sold at Sears that you could buy at Wards and vice versa. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Chuck(ONT)
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 6:47am
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I think they had Tecumseh engines.
------------- Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway! 1C 1 WD45 1 AC180 |
Posted By: RichinWis
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 7:57am
| My Dad used to have a wagon gear that he bought mail order from Sears, a David Bradley one which had David Bradley written across the back bolster. Then the serial number plate had printed on it "Sold exclusively by Montgomery Wards. I thought that was quite unique. |
Posted By: Mike(SEIN)
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:26am
| That engine looks like a wisconsin to me. |
Posted By: CAdon
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 1:14pm
in another topic string somebody asked how much of our tractors were original and how much were replacements. i just guessin' here that the spark plug wire is probably "aftermarket" but the sheared off bolt in the lower left is quite likely original equipment... but user altered.   ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |