What is your idea of a perfect mowing tractor?
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Topic: What is your idea of a perfect mowing tractor?
Posted By: David Maddux
Subject: What is your idea of a perfect mowing tractor?
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:04am
| I think mine would be an IB with a WD45 engine, a CA transmission and a Woods l-306 mower. Can it be done? |
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Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:25am
| I sure like the way my CA with an L59 handels. |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:38am
| As far as gettin the job done my choice is a 27hp. all wheel steer JD 62" cut --- sorry |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:39am
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I like the way my C does with an L-306 on it. Just need to get some new wheels for mine. Would LOVE to have a hand clutch though!  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:46am
| 1952 CA with a Woods L-306 deck is a good all-around machine. It does good in straight lawn grass as well as roadsides with weeds and tall grass. Keep the belts tight, blades sharp, and it does pretty good for a tractor that's 60 years old. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:49am
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I have a D-12 Series III with a 3pt finishing mower. I wished it had power steering.
Rough mowing is with a D-15 Series II with 3 pt bush hog. Most of the good lawn is mowed with a Grasshopper Zero turn. All good! ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:59am
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One with enough room to fit my 90# lab on it! He loves to ride the mower!
Zero turn mowers have a good sized deck plate for this!! ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:04am
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I have cut grass with Bs and Cs with belly mowers for almost 40 years now. Does that qualify me? Nope just felt good to say it, LOL. Anyway unless you know of a drive belt that I have never been able to find a B125 in good shape will put out more power than the belt will stand for very long. Currently we have both a B and a C set up with mowers. A B goes faster in 2nd gear especialy the early ones. Our early 38B in first gear will run along side the 41 C in second. C turns shorter which is nice. Hand brakes are yuk on a user IMO. ALways wanted to set one up with some sort of real live PTO just for giggles. Given a pile of parts to work from my tractor would have model B finals and housings, and be model C from there forward with live PTO, ind hydraulics and power steering added. The B-125 powerplant would remain.
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Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:36am
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AC 720 for me. Hydro and power steering and 60" deck. Perfect mowing machine. Late model features and is still an AC. ------------- Yea, I can fix that..... |
Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:59am
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Dave, How about your favored recipe except use a 160cid engine from a D15? That could be put together fairly easy. Everything would be simple mix & match bolt together components, with nothing more complicated than drilling out the holes in the front motor plate or using step down studs if you can find them. Now go build it! Kip ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:20am
| I really like mowing with My C with woods L306. I had a woods on my CA also and gave it away. the C is better for mowing. if it had live hydraulics and live power it would be a slight improvement. but the hand clutch setup on the CA just don't hackit. its realy worse than nothing. I put the optional manual lift on instead. I have a 3pt mower also and don't use it I just can't stand haveing it behind me swinging the opposite direction that I turn. it does work good for backing under the trees. I use a WD45 for that thought again the CA handclutch is just wrong. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:22am
| the one my ole lady....oooops....i mean my loving wife..."drives"!! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:22am
If this rig had a short stack, a tail seat and an up front deck so you can get up and under tree branches, I think it would be at the top of my list. I could even drive it across the creek to keep some paths in the overgrown pasture for deer hunting access. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:23am
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Might as well add a 3 point to the back in case you need to do some brush hoggin or plow the garden.3 point might not work with a tail seat but OH Well! ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:34am
| Charlie: I like your idea, but I am afraid the wife would yell at me when I made my turns. |
Posted By: MikeinLcoMo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:37am
| Anything with some one else's butt in the seat! |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:45am
| I have a woods L59 under a B which I have used for over ten years. I like it real well. I put a woods 59 right hand under one of my C's which does a good job also but I do not like the idea of the 59 mower being narrower than the rear tractor tires. I think that with the 59 mower I will put it under a B with a C narrow front some time iin the future. That I think will be the ideal mower for me. |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:00am
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How about a D-12 Series III with Live Hydraulic to lift and lower a Woods belly mower, and Live PTO for mowing around fence posts etc. Could the rear Axle Housings been turned 90 degrees like an IB to lower it. Use a 'B' wishbone front axle inverted. Sounds like a project. Gary
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Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:02am
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We have a 5015 with a Deutz Allis 60A mower belly mounted. That little diesel is great as we have some steep slopes and it has a lot of torque. The diff lock helps when the uphill drive wheel looses traction. Probably a 4x4 would be better but this gets it done. I used it last year, and am still getting used to the 2 stage clutch for hte live PTO. ------------- |
Posted By: bill2260
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:37am
| Im with mike, a rig with some one elses butt in the seat. Just finished mowing my lawn. March 29, 2556 feet elevation, barbarric. Never mowed the lawn this early. Sometimes not till May. Bill |
Posted By: Michael Crowe
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:44am
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Right now, I have a 1939 B with a Woods L59, and it is my favorite, but I plan to put factory power steering on my 1953 WD with an L306 and then it will claim the favorite spot. ------------- The 14th Annual Exclusive AC Swap Meet will be held in Boonville, MO, March 7-8, 2025. See the club website for details: http://www.moacclub.com/ |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:46am
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5020 with a 60 in belly mower works good as long as the electric clutch holds up. Fast and maneuverable. I have the LCG version. But nothing beats a 52" Ferris zero turn. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: WD in kansas
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 11:28am
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My WD and a 7' finish mower behind it. I have a cupholder bolted to the fender for my favorite beverage! ------------- 1950 WD, Duetz Allis 613 |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 12:02pm
As far as the butt thing goes, that's why you buy your wife her own tractor with a mower. Plus you get another tractor. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 12:02pm
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Toss up between my CA W/Woods L306 mower (I do like the hand clutch on the CA...however, had to rebuild several of them to get them to work properly) and the AGCO 2020LC W/5' cutting deck. Both gets lots of work on the 5 acres I mow. The CA gets the nod for the 1/2 mi ditch banks on both sides of the county road in front of the house and around the pond. The L2020LC (with hydro drive, power tilt/trim on the deck) gets the nod for around the house. ------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: Murph-NC
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 12:16pm
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My C with the Woods L503 under the belly sure is nice. Definitely better than my CA with 3pt finish mower, but I have to be able to use other implements from time to time. ------------- '41 C w/Woods L503 mower, #3 mower, 2-way plows for C |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 12:46pm
My 7000 black belly with the 3240 20' Woods Batwing. Not sure why Dad
insists on push mowing the lawn when I could do it in a lot less time
with this :-D Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 1:04pm
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Dave,
I don't have the perfect mowing tractor; I use three tractors, two WD45's one with a 84" rear mounted mower and one with a 80-R mower and I trim with a 60" Grass hopper. Dad and I mow the yard and trim around the feilds in about one hour.
Did I say that I don't like to mow. lol
 ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Dave Richards (WV)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 1:39pm
| WD-45 with my Lilliston 7 foot "Yard Leveler" |
Posted By: Larry in Ill
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 2:40pm
| I have a WD45 engine on a C. Just needed to mill the flywheel and make an adaptor plate. Tractor brushhogs through whatever grows over the summer. |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 3:26pm
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80 acres with 200 head of hungry angus cows with calves along side. Two weeks and it will be picked clean.
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Posted By: David G.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:31pm
| Im gonna be the "odd one " here, but I use a farmall super A with a L59 woods mower. It works really well for me . However I think using a CA with a wide front and a L59 would be a better choice. |
Posted By: LannyMTN
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:08pm
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I like the '42 C, and L59. Perfect, probably not, but gets the job done well and is very economical.
Lanny
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:43pm
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I have my 620 with hydro and 60" deck, so I'm a happy man. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:47pm
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Sheep.
I thought my 716H was pretty great then I ran my Dads Woods Mowin machine 60" zero turn awsome.
But sheep are better. ------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:50pm
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The new Simplicity Legacy's are very nice.
------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: cornbinder
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:58pm
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nice lookin 7000 ------------- D-19 gas w/f-sold 185-d yr round cab 95 mustang gt 5.0 86 mustang 5.0 coupe 3 99 f-250 7.3 4x4's 96 f-250 7.3 4x4 |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:10pm
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When we lived in Michigan I had a Kubota 6200 ( I think) with a 48" deck and the heel/toe hydro. I could cut about 3 acres of lawn with that tractor in two hours and a gallon of diesel fuel. Wish I never would have sold it... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: nyacdon
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:16pm
if lawns and farmsteads are the topic a green 777 zero-turn is a tough competitor--10 mph and a real classy job--makes the 20-30 hp belly mowers blush and hide--been there!!! 
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 11:04pm
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Hurst beat me to it. LOL  ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: CBL95
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 11:08pm
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60" Kubota ZD28 28 horse diesel Zero-turn (still have and use) JD 4720 with 15' landpride 3 gang finish mower (sold tractor but still have mower if interested) They come in real handy when you mow 40 ac. of soccer fields like we did for 5 years. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:28am
| hurst...you need to put 7010 decals on that tractor! it would pass! |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:48pm
My perfect mowing tractor is my original B-110. I am rebuilding an HB-212 that will be my mowing tractor when completed.  ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |