XT pto
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Topic: XT pto
Posted By: alexchalmers
Subject: XT pto
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 5:34pm
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Recently purchased a 190xt. It currently has a1000 rpm pto. How big of a project is it to switch to a 540. I believe it is a 67. |
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Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 6:14pm
| I didn't realize that they came with a 1000 RPM only PTO. I've only ever seen 540 or the interchangeable one. Learn something new every day. |
Posted By: alexchalmers
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 7:08pm
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That could be the case. I have never seen an interchangeable pto on a 190. I am definitely not an expert on the matter. This is the first tractor that I have owned. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 7:10pm
| It can be done , but i just bought an adapter to go to 540 and run the engine slower |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 8:39pm
| I don't know what is involved but in 1971 I was going to buy a new xt, it had 540 and I needed 1000, dealer said he would change it for me but that is as much as I know. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 8:59pm
Be careful with that. Extending the PTO changes the standard for length, which is necessary for range of motion. You can get into trouble running out of collapse in the shaft. I was trying to back a little red wagon with 400 bushel of corn into a shed once. The PTO shaft evidently ran out of room to collapse(nose of tractor was a little up hill from drawbar). When I cranked the front end a little and kicker the brake to straighten things out I heard a BANG. It was the PTO shaft shearing off the tractor. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
DougG wrote:Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 9:45pm
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To Change you need to change 2 gears and the shaft. The early and later 190's used differant gears.
Another option is to put a 2 speed lift housing on. It used the 1000 rpm gears. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: alexchalmers
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 10:21pm
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Thanks for the info. Where would be the best place to find the parts for this swap? Is the agco dealer the best place to go? |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 10:37pm
| Are you sure that it is not the inner changeable 540/1000 PTO? Darrel |
Posted By: alexchalmers
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 10:48pm
| I don't know if it's interchangeable or not. This one looks to be bolted on. I'll take a picture next time I have a chance. |
Posted By: kffischer
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 11:08pm
I bet if you unbolt it, you'll find the shaft you need inside. only use 4 bolts at any time, and all four in the same radius of the flange. 540 uses one bolt circle and 1000 uses the other. 190 experts will need to chime in. karl f
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 11:15pm
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I have a two speed housing and all the parts from a 185 for sale....I would think that they would fit. If your pto flange has 4 extra holes all you have to do is flip it and use those holes. ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: alexchalmers
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 6:46am
| I'll check it out. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 8:54pm
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The 2 speed has stub shaft bolted on with 4 bolts to a hub. The standard does not have a hub and goes directly through the bearing which has a 3 bolt flange retainer.
The best place for the parts is from an individual or a tractor salvage yard. You can buy another tractor for what the dealer will charge. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: Pete from IL
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 9:22pm
| My Dad ordered a n XT190 from the factory with full time 1000 pto . We ran a John Deere 300 corn picker with it. It had the hyd. clutch engage. Years later I put the 2 speed housing on it for 540 pto instead of changing gears up front. The housing was from a 185, but I think the shaft in front of the housing needed to come from a 190 or maybe a 200. I got the parts from North side Salvage in Red Bud IL. |
Posted By: alexchalmers
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 6:24pm
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I took a closer look yesterday. It is a full time 1000 rpm pto. Looked through the manual, hope to be able to switch it out myself. All of the implements that I will be running are 540. Thanks again for the info. Alex. |