what plows do i have
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Topic: what plows do i have
Posted By: XT in pa
Subject: what plows do i have
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 7:55pm
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i have a set of 3 bottoms and a set of 2 bottoms will try pics Shawn
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 8:09pm
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Can't tell without pictures.you can download the plow bottoms manual and the plow frames parts book from http://www.grandpastractor.com/phpBB3/index.php The upper case is critical. 50 has vertical shanks. 60, 70, and 80 have angled shanks. 50 and 60 are single width, generally except in some 10/12 frames, 60 and 70 generally have fixed shanks. 80 has angled spring trip shanks. But those were available as options for the 60 and 70 series. 70 and 80 series have adjustable width frames to take two widths of bottoms. then there's 9000 and 2000 families that are somewhat different. Plow bottoms and frames appear to have been sold independently, there's very little connection between a particular bottom and particular frame since nearly all the bottoms used the same mounting bolts and bolt centers. Gerald J. |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 8:18pm
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it wont let me post pics from photo bucket ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 9:17pm
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Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 9:18pm
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 9:29pm
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First one has vertical shanks, two bottoms, that's a model 52. Second has angled fixed shanks, bolts in the cross members, that's adjustable width and a model 72. To reliably identify the bottoms it usually takes finding a part number on share, moldboard, or frog. Sometimes they were stamped into the metal, sometimes painted or rubber stamped. The pictures in the plow bottoms book are with the plows laying on the left side looking from below the plow into the frog region and some are unique enough to be identified by share mounting and brace details, but not all. AC supplied many different shares for each plow bottom for different soil conditions. Gerald J. |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 9:41pm
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the first one is a 3 bottom if it matters i need a point for the 2 bottom and both shins the 3 bottoms are still ok to use. do they still make the bullet blade?? Shawn ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: EricSWPA
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 10:02pm
| Whatever you find out id be interested to know if i knew how to post pics of mine i would ive been thinking about hunting down spare parts to keep on hand we have two sets of 3 bottoms ones a 12" the other is 14" i belleive. |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 10:07pm
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first picture is a 53. second is a 72. ------------- |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 10:09pm
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Eric I got one blade from schotts and it was the only one they had. And no part number lol. So now I'm on a hunt Shawn ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 12:08am
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Ok its a model 53. There are manuals on epay and other places for the 50 family and for each of the individual numbers of bottoms. Same thing for the 70 family. Plow shares, shears, or blades are not a modern commodity item. Though AC may still have some of some types. There was a big cache of them in eastern Iowa but the company went out of business and had a multiple day auction to clear out the storage and none of those parts have surfaced to my knowledge. There are some shares made but few for anything but the latest AC bottom, generally the 387 bottom. There are shares made for other plows that may be adapted, I think. The frog will drill a lot easier than the share and then the nose angle will probably need adjustment. But I've not tried that. My 392 bottoms had good shares, just needed shins which I found in Texas. Gerald J. |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 7:50am
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Thank you Gerald where will i find part numbers on mold boards these things are pretty rusty and i couldnt find any numbers Shawn if its easier you can call me 724-255-9904 ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 8:05am
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As Gerald said the shares are hit-miss. The only share that is currently in production for A-C bottoms is 387 and from what I am told not for long. There seem to be lots of NOS shares around but they are also widely scattered, there being no "go-to" person or place. Being the impatient type I go to Osmundson's web site and look at the available bolt patterns, compared to my frogs and then call Shoup and have parts in two days. My latest conversion project was a 9000 plow with 375 bottoms. The shares, landsides and shins all adapted from other makes and models. Another place to look if nearby is TSC. They have been liquidating non-current plow parts (around here at least) for a few months at about 50% off.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 11:09am
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Sometimes the numbers on moldboards are quite visible, sometimes the rubber stamp ink faded 47 years ago. Some were stamped in the steel, and I have pictures of them at last summer's threshing shows easily read. I suspect sometimes the numbers got stamped where they only show if the moldboard is removed from the frog. In the day, there were also aftermarket makers of several of the moldboards. Shares were numbered as well as frogs, shins, and landsides, but landsides were shared between many bottoms, shins weren't on all bottoms and frogs were sometimes shared between bottoms of a family. Moldboards are most distinct in the parts book. Next best thing is to compare share mounting details along with frog construction details in the parts book illustrations. Sometimes that works. Gerald J. |
Posted By: roscoe
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 11:59am
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I have a 53 plow for sale. In very good shape, brand new colters. Points are fair.
It has the slat mold boards.
The problem is transportation.
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