Plowing with a G this morning
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Topic: Plowing with a G this morning
Posted By: mmccarty
Subject: Plowing with a G this morning
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 1:27pm
I bought this model G a few months ago. I've never plowed anything before in my life, just gardened with a roto-tiller. I managed to turn over a third of an acre. I wasn't going to set any speed records, but I was surprised at how well it did in the heavy clay.    |
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Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 1:34pm
| Good looking plowing job........Tim |
Posted By: RickinNH
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 1:53pm
| If you like the way it plows wait till you cultivate with it. That was all we used ours for. Tomatos and strawberrys when they are small. Great little tractor. Good job plowing. Can tell that you didn't spend St. Patrick’s Day drinking. Furrows are straight. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 2:24pm
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The G was the best plowing tractor we sold. I LOVED to plow with them. In fact, when people saw the plow on the G they often said it would not pull it. We would "bet the sale on it's ability to Plow". Never lost. Love that RICH BLACK EARTH. All we have here is red clay rock. I know you had aGREAT time Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 2:35pm
That was the reason for buying it. I was going to have the neighbors do some plowing for me, but since the G came with a plow I figured I'd give it a try. We bought this place about three years ago. We own about five acres of what you see. I don't really have much of a farming background, but we have a hen house (in the first photo) with 2500 hens producing organic eggs. The few acres of tillable land that we own has been planted in hay the past three years we've been here and I've been looking to do something more with it. I talked to our organic marketing cooperative and they were looking for some winter squash this year, so I'm going to put in three acres of squash... I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'll slowly figure it out.
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RickinNH wrote:Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 3:26pm
Very Nice "G"!  If they weren't so expensive I would own one instead of my B! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 8:41pm
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Now I'm looking for a small disc to pull behind the G... Our local Farm and Fleet has a four foot King Kutter on sale for about $700: http://www.kingkutter.com/store-product.aspx?id=3555" rel="nofollow - http://www.kingkutter.com/store-product.aspx?id=3555
I've read mixed reviews on this unit. Many of the reviews say it isn't aggressive enough. Some of the reviews said they couldn't even get it to cut in a plowed field. I notice that the gangs aren't adjustable. I'm not sure what to make of the reviews. Many times folks just have no idea, like a fellow who complains because his new rototiller won't till up sun-baked clay, but at $700 I'm leery enough to ask questions... Anybody have any thoughts or ideas?
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Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 8:43pm
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please don't pull that from a G. You'll have a broken block before you know it
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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 8:55pm
| Joe Murphy: I bet a guy could make a drawbar mount from some where at the front of the tractor to support the hitch. I know that is what I would be looking at before I pulled from the factory drawbar. I have scolded guys for putting chain binders on the hitch on a trailer before. Dave. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:08pm
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The disc we used with the G was a single disc of 10-18" blades. I am doing this from memory so if someone else can correct me please do. Take a good look at the disc shown before you take any direct action. The note above may well be correct since the draw bar is attached to the engine block only. By the way, nice looking G. Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:12pm
That's a good point. I do have a spare rear furrowing bar that somebody welded some sort of hitch onto. The mounts for the furrowing bar are a little more stout. Other than that I do have a 27HP sears garden tractor that might yank it around. I'm wondering if this setup might be better: http://www.kingkutter.com/store-product.aspx?id=3526" rel="nofollow - http://www.kingkutter.com/store-product.aspx?id=3526 It's the same weight as the first one (300+ lbs) so there is a lot more weight per disc... Any other ideas? There is a 7' double cultipacker down in the ditch that could be made usable again. I suspect it would be better used after a disc has broken down the largest of the chunks.
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Posted By: Ethan Souerdike
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:34pm
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Cool!
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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:41pm
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I like to pull a cultipacker before I disk or use the drag harrow. I breaks the clods and makes it easier to pull the disk.
I was told that it's OK to pull from the drawbar but not from the drawbar support. The drawbar mounts to the rear axle housing and look pretty strong. Bob
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Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:55pm
| I might try the cultipacker before I spend more money. I dragged it down to a ditch when we moved in here a few years ago, but the neighbors backed into it with a tractor and shattered the wooden drawbar. Other than that it looks like a nice unit, an old Dunham double roller. |
Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 4:00pm
I looked at the cultipacker, but it's bigger than I thought, an 8' double roller, it's doubtful that anything I have would pull it. I did pick up this disc at a local implement dealer. It has a 3.5 ft cut with adjustable gangs. It's pretty heavy duty, around 450 lbs. It did rather well behind the G. Again, I wasn't going to set any speed records, but it got the job done.  |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 4:51pm
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Looks like a good fit for the tractor! But as others will say, do not use the low "creeper" gear for pulling the disc or plow. ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 5:12pm
| Most of the time I was in first gear. I found that the discs needed to be in the neutral position and then I could pull it in first gear. After the first pass which knocked down the worst of it, I was able to pull the discs at a more aggressive setting in second gear, but couldn't turn it around at the end of the rows it in second gear, that was too much for it. The front end really needs some more weight on it as I couldn't turn too well, but just managed to. |
Posted By: Jason in MO
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:24pm
This was me plowing my garden last week in February. Ground was still a little wet but it still worked up fairly good.  d.
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Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 9:43am
| Jason, is that a disc plow? It doesn't look like the 12" bottom that I was using. |
Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 10:06am
| a couple fellows around here use the wheeled disc setup like you have up there. they are perfect for 4 wheelers to use on deer plots. I wondered how well they worked but as you said, 450 lbs is enough to cut the dirt around here. |
Posted By: mmccarty
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 10:26am
That's what this one was made for: http://loyal-roth.com/Multi_Use.html" rel="nofollow - http://loyal-roth.com/Multi_Use.html
It came with a 1 7/8" ball coupler. That came in handy for a little bit. I had the implement dealer put the disc on the back of my truck with a forklift. I then drove 30 miles back to a neighbor's place and used his skid steer to lift it off the truck and then towed it down the road to my place with the ball on the truck. I then unbolted the ball coupler and welded up a pin hitch adapter for the tractor.
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Posted By: shattercane
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 10:44am
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My buddy put his behind a 9N and it doesn't cut in very good, not enough weight. We haven't put any additional weight on it yet, but I'd say for the money a guy could find one in a scrap pile somewhere and save a lot of money and achieve a similar result. ------------- 29 L Case, 37 CC Case,40 A-C allcrop 40, 43 B Allis Chalmers, 50 DC Case, 54 WD-45 WF, 67 190 Gas |
Posted By: Terry GA
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 4:43pm
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Nice "G"! 3 acres of squash will be allot of work when the plants start producing....hope you have plenty of help. ------------- I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 6:17pm
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Nice G!! perfect outfit for
your operation I have never owned one yet but would listen to Dave M r.e. the drawbar .
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Posted By: Jason in MO
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 8:56pm
yes it's a disk plow, here's ano ther angle of it
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