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Topic: hand clutch delete option?
Posted By: dad2many
Subject: hand clutch delete option?
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 7:35pm
I just acquired an CA , several folks told me to be sure and check the hand clutch. I looked all over and couldn't find one. After looking at pictures, I see where it would mount through the platform. My knock out in the sheet metal has never been removed. Is it possible that it was originally ordered without the hand clutch?



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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 7:42pm

Hand clutches were an option so yours must not have come with one. You can still install one but you just need to round up all the parts.



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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 9:13pm
 I have included a few pictures at different views to show the hand clutch. Now just keep in mind that the hand clutch on my "CA" is on the left hand side and most are on the right.
 Rear view shows on left side.
 
Front shows on right.
 
Top view shows on towards the top.
 One could have ordered a "CA" three ways, without a hand clutch, clutch on right side or on left side.


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Thanks & God Bless

Dennis


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 9:17pm
That's neat Dennis, I've never seen one on the left before.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 9:21pm
I have never seen a CA without the hand clutch. I think if it was mine, I would leave it that way. 

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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 9:43pm
 Don't worry about the hand clutch too much. Remember that you just bought a 60 year old tractor and some things may need to be fixed. If your "CA" has a hand clutch that slips, go ahead and rebulid it. If you need help there are many on this forum that will be here for you. Once you have a strong clutch you will enjoy your new tractor very much.
 
Below is a video link of my "CA" pulling a 3-14 mounted plow. Hand clutch does not slip.
 Please keep in mind that the "CA" is rated as a two bottom tractor.
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/caallis/CA%20Working%20Pictures/?action=view&current=20100830172410.mp4" rel="nofollow">


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Thanks & God Bless

Dennis


Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 9:53pm
So... If a CA could have none, left, or right could one have both left and right? The reason I ask is I also have never seen the clutch on the left, but after seeing it I think I would like my CA with belly mower to have it on the left as I don't have two right arms to run the hand clutch and Hyd lift. I recently bought a parts CA and rather than move my good clutch from the right to the left maybe I could just add the parts one to the left and have two. Am I thinking crazy thoughts?


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 9:55pm
There is no reason why you can not do this. I often thought about changing my to the left.


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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 10:09pm
 All I can think of is that with all of them levers in the way how would you get on and off? LOL

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Thanks & God Bless

Dennis


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 6:23am
You know when we sold them I cannot remember the hand clutch as an option. Also, to my recollection they were all on the right side. However i have been proven wrong before.
I'll have to check Pop's price book.
Good Luck!
Bill Long



Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 11:23am
My 1952 CA has the 'Hand Clutch' on the R/H side, but you can definetly see
 
the outline of the 'knockout' in the floor pan on the L/H side.
 
Gary


Posted By: dad2many
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 7:16pm

you can clearly see the knockouts but neither has been removed. Guess mine is special.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 8:06pm
Yes, I would agree.

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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 9:59pm
Tonight I looked up the CA in Pop's Price Book.  Remember the book is dated May 26, 1960.  The CA was discontinued in 1957, however, there were some still in "field inventory" or dealer's stock and the description was left in the book.  It reads:
"Model CA Tractor
With 10-24 Rear Tires, Power Adjusted Real Wheel Tread, Foot Brakes, Power take-off, Belt Pulley, Hydraulic Control System, Axillary Hand Clutch, SNAP COUPLER TRACTOR BOOSTER indicator, Starter and Lights.
With Dual front tires     $ 1,900  weight 2850
With Wide Front           $ 1,950  weight 2950
Single Front Tires          $ 1.950  weight 2965
There is not indication of less hand clutch and left or right.  However, that does not mean it was not made.  As you see above yes they were.


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 12:04am
My CA had a welded up hand clutch that was braking  loose when I got it. I really only wanted the CA to tractor pull with so got a straight one piece axle out of a parts CA and replaced the busted useless clutch axle with it. It is still a CA just without a hand clutch.


Posted By: littleredrooster57
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 5:38am
Where can I buy new hand clutch, mine has been adjusted, but now slips so bad it will bearly move


Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 7:03am
There is no way to adjust a slipping hand clutch; one needs to rebuild with new friction, etc to eliminate slippage. Alternatively, they can be bolted/welded together or replaced with a solid pinion shaft from another CA or C.


Posted By: littleredrooster57
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 9:53am
I am looking to buy new friction plates or a rebult clutch


Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 4:05pm
Littleredrooster
Friction, rivets, and springs are available from AGCO; check Sandy Lake. Chris in CT can also supply the friction and rivets (his is better quality than AGCO). Not hard to rebuild. I can send a pdf file with pics if you pm me your regular email

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 4:52pm
Your local AGCO dealer can get you a friction kit to replace worn friction material. You have to reuse the metal part. All that's involved is riveting the new material to the original metal plate. I'd replace the springs too. They can loose tension over some 60 years time. The hardest part will be getting the clutch assy out of the axle.

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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 10:34pm
If you flip the hand clutch to the left side, won't it work the oppisite way?
You must reverse it for it to fit on the left. Bob


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 31 May 2012 at 8:40am
Ask Dennis, his was on the right and now is on the left and you still pull the handle to disengage it.

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Posted By: Murph-NC
Date Posted: 31 May 2012 at 11:19am
Seems like having it on the left would be nice for use with an All Crop combine.

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