How much can my "B" pull?
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Topic: How much can my "B" pull?
Posted By: R.W
Subject: How much can my "B" pull?
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 10:04am
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Do you think I could pull 2-12 or 2-14 plow, like the ones 8n's and 9n's fords pull? It has the later CE motor and will spin the tires in 3rd with a snap of the throttle, the only thing I'm thinking will be a problem is being such a light tractor? What do you guys think? ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 10:12am
| Level field? What type of soil? The 8N Ford used a mounted plow. That makes a difference. I would say you could pull 2-12s under most conditions. 2-14s? That all depends. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 10:38am
| I bet with the optional snap-coupler and mounted plows plus some weight, you could pull circles around an 8N. |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 10:49am
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R.W, can I ask why you are asking this question ? If I remember right this is going to be your cultivating tractor. ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: ALinIL
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 10:58am
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In our area, if you weigh it down to about 4000 and use a mounted plow you can do it. Horsepower in not much different. Assuming your B is in top shape. IMO
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 11:02am
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Mostly sandy ground and not any hills, yes it would be a 3 point plow. Rfdeere, that was my original plan to just cultivate but because this tractor has a 3 point hitch it is not a big deal to switch between implements. Not to worry it will still be used to cultivate!  ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 11:18am
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Then just use a one bottom. Why are you worried about what those Dorf's are doing ? ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: steelwheelAcjim
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 11:20am
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Your not that far away from me. In sand, you should be able to pull a Ford style 2x12 0r 2x14 plow. If anything, you may need to add some frame weights if the front feels light. You don't have to plow as deep as China!!!! ------------- Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires! |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 11:38am
------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Rfdeere wrote:Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 11:40am
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 1:26pm
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3 point, I bet only a 1 point. You will have no depth control over it only you use some form of mechanical means (Like a tire) I pull a Oliver 2 point trail plow with my B, clay will make it snort, otherwise it does fine. I'm at 2500 lbs with wheel weights. I only do gardens, no field plowing. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Glockhead SWMI
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 2:00pm
| 2-14s will work it. I have a 2-14 trip plow and the c has problems. Clay here though. Decent tires? |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 2:17pm
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 2:18pm
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Posted By: Glockhead SWMI
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 2:26pm
| I think he is commenting about the lack of draft control. |
Posted By: countryguy828
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 2:44pm
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I have the cross 3pt on my B. I tried 2 different 2 bottom Ford plows. One would only plow about 3 inches the other dug in too deep and just made the tractor do wheelies uncontrollably. The problem I see with the cross and worksaver 3 pt conversions is that the draft point is higher than the axle center. If the draft point where lower I think it would be fine.
Dave
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 3:04pm
Sorry, but yes. Lack of draft control with that basic 3 point will not perform very good. Get a trail (trip) plow or a mounted 1 bottom and go at it. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 3:52pm
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So the best idea if I want to go with the 3 point is get a one bottom plow? ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 3:57pm
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You will still have the same depth control issue but I think if it had a side wheel that controls the depth you should be fine. I don't think a standard Tractor Supply 1 Bottom plow would work. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 3:59pm
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Also if I remember right your 3 point has no way to adjust 1 arm up/down to compensate for the wheel drop into the furrow? ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 4:16pm
| Your best bet is to go with a plow made for the B if you want a mounted plow. If you use a three point you still have to level the frame side to side even with a one bottom plow if you want to do a good job. You also do need the draft control to plow without playing with the lift with one hand all the time the plow is in the ground. I have a plow for the B out here at the house, one on the dock at the plant and at least one in the scrap yard at the plant. I probly will never mount any of them and use a pull type plow any time I want to plow with any of the B's. |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 4:24pm
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I also think that using a 3 pt. plow on a B would be a pain. Since you probably want to leave the 3 pt. on the tractor for other implements, your best (easiest) bet might be to get a trailer plow like Dick L mentioned. Taking the 3 pt. hitch off and putting it back on when you're done to mount a B plow might get old pretty quickly. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 4:56pm
Both arms are adjustable. Maybe I just need to sell the 3 point and get the original implements? That sounds like the best idea. ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 7:07pm
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Borrow a Plow and see what happens
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 7:43pm
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