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Loader on 160 - Need Advice

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Topic: Loader on 160 - Need Advice

Posted By: geb
Subject: Loader on 160 - Need Advice
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:55pm

I am going to put a loader on a 1970 model "One Sixty". Is the hydraulic pump large enough to handle the regular duties as well as the loader. Also what and where is the best place to tap into the system? Is there a fesible way to mount a front pump? Any help and/or advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanx in advance.

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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 6:42am

160 should run a loader just fine and anything else for a tractor of that size. Just plug into the rear remotes.

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1944 Allis C
1960 Allis D-17 LP

Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 7:34am

Two IFs

1. IF it were me

2. IF the remote valve levers are the same as the 190, with the very aggressive "detents"

I would plumb a different two or three spool valve into one of the factory remotes. I think you will eventually get very frustrated trying to use a loader with the factory setup for the levers.

Plus this gives you one open remote valve for some other use as needed.

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Posted By: stray
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 4:41pm

If you use the factory remotes to run the load, be sure to put ball valves between the quick coupler and loader bucket hoses, so you can shut them off with the loader lifted up and bleed the pressure off and then unhook the hoses to do other things. and still plug them back in easly

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1969 190XT series 3

Posted By: geb
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2012 at 1:19am

The loader has it's own controls. I just need flow and pressure and the ability to use three point hitch and rear remotes at the same time as the loader. Thanx

Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 10:29am

Just adding a tee in the pressure line will not work. The system is open center, You will need a diverter valve or a power beyond setup. If you don't none of the hydraulics will work.

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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A

Posted By: stray
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 5:26pm

If both valves are open center you should be able to hook them in series (the outlet of one to the inlet of the other) and be fine. But you will only be able to use one fuction at a time.

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1969 190XT series 3

Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 7:27pm

If you hook them in series, the first valve should have power beyound. If not, it may not work properly.

You may still will only be able to use one function at a time. Load checks on the work ports will keep from back feeding from one function to the other.

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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A