sad night last night at pull
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Topic: sad night last night at pull
Posted By: acd21man
Subject: sad night last night at pull
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 7:46pm
 last night a d21 on alcohol caught fire last night at the miller coliseum murfreesboro tn iv got it on video ill post it later. any1 else see this happen, um tractor was called the entertainer i think, she was turning alot of RPMS ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
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Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:01pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kujZTQ66YDo&feature=channel_video_title" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kujZTQ66YDo&feature=channel_video_title this is one of my friends pulling a 6030 in 2008 he won his class he set the 6030 up on the sand pile, the D21 video is still loading like 30 mins left and she'll be up ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:29pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iQQ3rdmBAM&feature=channel_video_title" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iQQ3rdmBAM&feature=channel_video_title
here was the D-21 ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:35pm
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Yea I was there. He won the class Friday to make the finals. Only shot we had to see an orange one win. Other then that its a Christmas show of Red and Green. Really gets old seeing 6030s and 1466s pull at every pull, in every class, on every level. Really dont prove anything winning with a red or green one. Make the rules to fit,and bolt on what you need, and you can be good with a red and green one.
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:43pm
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did you have a tractor pulling or was you just there ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 1:12am
| From the video not a unheard of event on the NTPA circuit. Amazing how fast the big boys of pulling can get a tractor back up and going. Seen them before were they have physically split the block to the point were you could see a 4 inch gap. |
Posted By: Steve Bright
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 8:40am
| I tried to listen to the announcer, Did he say the tractor belongs to Al Koch of Indianapolis? |
Posted By: Tim-tn
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 8:49am
| the D-21 was the Entertainer out of Indianapolis, IN. owned by Al Koch. |
Posted By: smuggler
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 3:13pm
| yes al koch and john lancasters tractor. The rules are set up equal as far as cubic inch and weight. ! major problem is the old 426 block cant take the same abuse as the otr colors. The Entertainer had valve train issues the other nite. And apparently was a little lean on fuel as It detonated. Not a huge deal. Al and John are 2 guys that have been around for along time and are some of the best there is. there also 2 of 3 guys who were the 1st to put 4 turbos on a super stock pulling tractor. |
Posted By: bikley
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 3:23pm
| [TUBE]3iQQ3rdmBAM&feature=channel_video_title[/TUBE] |
Posted By: omahagreg
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 6:18pm
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Needs alittle bondo! ------------- Greg Kroeker 1950 WD with wide front and Freeman trip loader |
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 11:28pm
| I was there and saw it.. kinda disappointed as well since that was about the only orange, though I did see a 180 pull on friday. The rest looked like a christmas display! oh, and I wasn't too far from you as I was about two sections to the left at the very top of where this video was taken.. -Wes |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 6:25am
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I've seen plenty of green and red ones on youtube that have split the block in two throwing the top 2/3 of the block up through the hood and on to the ground. I don't think Allis has any more problems than a red or green one. It's just that Allis has been gone for more than a generation now and that means fewer tractors and fewer with the interest to pull Allis. Back in the heyday of Allis in the 60's and 70's Allis was king on the pulling circuit. I was pretty small to see much of it but I've worked with older red fans that told me all about how Allis was the one to beat back then. Allis pullers were the first to put multiple turbos on their engines if I remember right. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 7:35am
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Looks like it went a little lean. It is comeing down to who can hold the most pressure between the crankshaft the the block deck. We can build girdles and run tie bars from the girdle to the head to add some strength. We can buy or build cylinder heads to feed any of these engines. We can use large enough turbos and coolers to keep the intake temp and pressure in line and keep throwing methanol in to make up some of it. But when one little thing goes wrong, parts go into orbit no matter what has been done to prevent it.
I hope it didn't lift the head or wreck the block, hopefully just popped the intake off and has some fire damage. ------------- "see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet" |
Posted By: smuggler
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 1:29pm
| Neither me nor Al run any kinda of tie system to hold the block together. We are not running the huge boost like the diesel tractors. In the light super class intercoolers are not allowed for a alchol tractor. Al told me he thinks it dropped a valve then detonated. Not much any of can predict is when a valve is gonna come apart. |