D17 Series IV starter solenoid
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Topic: D17 Series IV starter solenoid
Posted By: DEP5
Subject: D17 Series IV starter solenoid
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 9:54pm
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For 1966 D17 series IV gas tractor, I have a question about the 4-wire external starter solenoid. The 1967 Dealer Parts catalog (Form D-91) shows part number 241265 on page 85 and then on page 93 it shows part number 237134. Which is correct? What is the original Delco Remy part number? Thanks PS: UPDATE . .This is what I have learned. Delco Remy 1114208 is the number stamped on the 4-terminal all steel body. The solenoid is stamped with letters I (ignition) and S (starter) next to the small terminals and has a built in resistor bypass circuit. The solenoid must be grounded in order to function. NAPA has a combination plastic & steel housing version-ST81 (intermittent duty) $25 or ST80 (continuous duty) about $60. ------------- D10 Series III, fully optioned |
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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 10:02pm
| I dont know of hand any part numbers but I priced one for my series IV and agco wanted like $90.00!!!!! They most likely dont even make the part so I'm curious also about another source. Thanks for the post!! Ryan |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 10:48pm
| I got one from Sandy lake implement about 3 months ago it was $86.97 Here there phone # 724 376 2498 |
Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 11:35pm
| If you don't care about correctness go to any auto parts store or eBay and get one for any mid 70's Ford for around $20 bucks give or take. |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 7:04am
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I just bought one from an autoparts store for $20.00. Side by side it is almost identical to the delco. ------------- 1944 Allis C 1960 Allis D-17 LP |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 7:19am
| There is 2 different 4 post solenoids. The 4th wire is a ground for a continuis operated solenoid. The other 4th wire solenoid goes to coil to provide 12v to coil while starter is engauged. MACK |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 7:35am
What store? Got a part number and manufacturer? ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
TexasAllis wrote:Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 10:01am
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Yeah i would also like the part # or store you used i have 2 more series 4 that will need the same part.
I could not find a 4 wire connection on ebay lots of three wire.
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Posted By: DEP5
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 10:33am
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From what I can determine, this application takes a 12v grounded solenoid that contains a resistor shorting circuit.
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Posted By: Longmeadow Farm
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 1:04pm
| Get the part number off your Delco starter and go on e-bay. I just purchased a new solenoid for my AC 175D for 15 bucks plus 7 bucks for shipping. I try and stay as far away from AGCO as I can... |
Posted By: DEP5
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 1:18pm
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UPDATE . .This is what I have learned. Delco Remy 1114208 is the number stamped on the 4-terminal all steel body. The solenoid is stamped with letters I (ignition) and S (starter) next to the small terminals and has a built in resistor bypass circuit. The solenoid must be grounded in order to function. NAPA has a combination plastic & steel housing version-ST81 (intermittent duty) $25 or steel housing like original-ST80 (continuous duty) about $60. ------------- D10 Series III, fully optioned |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 2:31pm
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Its like anything else. You get what you pay for. A $20. relay is just what it is. It probably won't last to long in service. For that type of application, you need a HD relay that will kick in, and quickly kick out and stay in service a long time. I have HD relays on the shelf for the "D" series Tractors. They are HD, and they are not twenty bucks either. A good heavy relay will run in the range of $45.-$90 bucks depending on its application, but its a one purchase deal when you buy a good one. The relays I have I believe run around $60. bucks if I remember correctly. Its been a while since I sold one. Just the wieght alone between the twenty dollar unit and the sixty dollar unit will explain the difference. Drop me an e-mail if interested.. We have anything electrical for the Tractors in stock...
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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 3:07pm
------------- 1944 Allis C 1960 Allis D-17 LP |
Posted By: DEP5
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 11:31am
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The NAPA counterman quoted an Echlin ST80 (continuous duty), steel body like original, about $60. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I find the 4-termnial ST80 does NOT have the small terminals marked as "S" and "I". One small terminal has to be grounded for it to work with the starter circuit and the ignition bypass feature would be lost. When the original Delco Remy solenoid is grounded and 12v is applied to the "S" terminal, the coil engages to power the starter and the "I" terminal provides 12v to the coil, bypassing the ignition resistor. ------------- D10 Series III, fully optioned |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 1:46pm
| "Keep your GM tractor all GM" |