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Topic: 185 starter issue
Posted By: mtanut
Subject: 185 starter issue
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2012 at 3:24pm
I have been working on my 185 doing odds and ends. I put a primer pump on the system and hooked the lights back up. Issue is I tried to start it and when I shove the clutch in and hit the starter it kept cranking after I took my finger off the button. I thought the starter button stuck because of the cold, but it wasn't. It cranked and then all of a sudden quit cranking. 
Well I put the charger back on but now I turn the key on the oil light comes on, the lights  will work and my primer pump will run when I switch it on, but the starter won't do anything.  I tried crossing the solenoid but it only clicks. I need advice, thanks in advance, Jeff


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I have a 185 Allis, 6060 Allis, Model K gleaner, SMTA ferg 35, ferg 20 (paps first tractor, Allis B (wife's)John Deere 240 skid loader and a bunch of the usual farm stuff.



Replies:
Posted By: N6PETE
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2012 at 3:50pm
Sounds to me like you got some wires crossed when you put the primer pump on. I had a similar issue when I replaced some wiring and key switch on my D17 IV 


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2012 at 4:38pm
If it's not the wiring you did on it then it is the solenoid assuming the battery is good.  I would suspect the starter last.  You may also want to take a look at the connections between the battery to solenoid to starter and make sure they are good and clean.
 
You can test the starter by just using a set of jumper cables and directly connect the battery to the starter to make sure it will turn over but make sure it's in neutral with brakes locked. 


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1957 WD45 dad's first AC

1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson


Posted By: mtanut
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2012 at 6:38pm
Well I went out and disconnected everything I hooked up. Still nothing. Apparently there has been some wiring done over the years so I have more to track down. I am leaning toward the solenoid stuck. I was off the tractor getting channell locks and it was still cranking with the switch off when it happened. I am wondering if the cold effected it. I will test it and the starter tomorrow.

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I have a 185 Allis, 6060 Allis, Model K gleaner, SMTA ferg 35, ferg 20 (paps first tractor, Allis B (wife's)John Deere 240 skid loader and a bunch of the usual farm stuff.


Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2012 at 9:14pm
You probably have that miserable Lucas starter on it. The solonoid is probably fried.  Also the field windings may be bad too as they are weak.    Not a good starter.   The Delco like used on the 180s were much better. 



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