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Topic: 7080 differance and value etc

Posted By: DarrylinWA
Subject: 7080 differance and value etc
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 6:32am

Just a few questions on these tractors and some observations.

I know there is fewer 7080 maroon belly tractors than the 7080 black bellys. So does that mean they will be worth more some day ?

Is there much of a differance between the 2 besides a little different cab, shifter change location, belly color ?

I have a 7030 and a 7050 maroon belly and might have the choice between buying a black belly 7080 and, or hopefully a 7080 marron belly. I would like the maroon belly because because I think it would fit better in our collection. What would be your ideas and opinions ? That is the only reason why I sold a D 21 this past 2 months to round out the collection a little better. I am also working on a D 19 Diesel. ( Still going over the idea of the 5.9 or now a 301 turbo out of a 190 )

P.S. I sold one of my D 21's to the Lapp family that came to Hutch this past summer because it was bought brand new over there and had the whole history of the thing. They are planning on bringing it out west in 2013 for the GOTO along with some other ones. )

Sorry for rambling.

Thanks in advanced Darryl

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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.

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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 6:40am

Does this mean that the Lapp family now has more D-21's than you do? I had a great visit with Mr. Lapp Sr. at Hutch and was kidding him about hauling 4 on a load like I did. Can't give you any advice on the 7080's

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Posted By: DarrylinWA
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 6:47am

Yes ,they now have 9 or 10. They are one class family. As of right now, they are planning on bringing up 3 loads to our show. It is 1420 milkes to Lynden WA. from Holyoke CO. I have talked to them alot since the GOTO and the whole family if coming out. They have family about 75 miles from our show and since it is the 50th anniversary of the D 21, they thought it was very fitting to come out west. I already had a private person give me $500 dollars to there fuel costs to come out west. Not much, but they said there all coming with there tractors. They are all a first class family !!!

Sorry for rambling again.

Thanks Darryl

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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.

Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 10:33am

Collectibility is often in the collectors eye. The black bellies had more reliable hydraulic systems among other things. Many of the odd breaks at the belt line of the cab were also eliminated (they were supposed to reduce interior noise, but were expensive to build). The simpler cab was just as quiet.

Of course the maroon bellies were the first 7000 series and the first AC's with a planetary (and stout) rear end.

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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

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Posted By: jjpetrich
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 3:47pm

Our mechanic said always to go with the black bellies. Its like a newer model of anything else improvments were made. If the middle shifter is what you want thats the way to go but compared to the black the direct trans cant be shifted on the go without grinding the crap out of it. Not sure if thats the same way with the maroon ones. Then if its a power shift you have to keep in mind that its a older model and that leaves more to go wrong but its all preference its not like choosing between a d19 and a 180. I like the black and orange better that maroon and orange together.

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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 8:20pm

I do like the looks of a black belly much better than the maroon, and perhaps there are some reliability issues that were improved on the blacks over the maroons. But in your case, when you've already got a couple maroon bellies, and I don't think you plan on farming thousands of acres with it, I'd probably go for the maroon belly. That is, of coarse if the shape of the tractors is comparable and priced accordingly. Darrel. P.S. it is my goal to make it out there in 2013 for your show