M&W Parts

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Topic: M&W Parts

Posted By: Gary in da UP
Subject: M&W Parts
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 7:51am

When did M&W stop producing engine kits and other parts for tractors. Are the bits and peices offered for sale now 30 0r 40 years old? Does anyone here know any of the history of M&W? Thanks, Gary

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Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:55am

Herschell adams has the old 301 and 426 high compression m&w kits. Not sure if anyone still makes the other m&w engine kits for the other engines.

Hurst

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1979 Allis Chalmers 7000
5800 Hours

Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 4:19pm

I think Heritage Iron had an article on M and W in one of their early issues-perhaps you could find a copy from a friend? Sherry might have a few copies around yet, too. I think there are companies offering clones of the Add-powr piston kits, I don't know if they are actual M and W.

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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 6:18pm

Great topic!! M&W made several items I believe. I know the piston kits, a turbo add on, something about a deeper oil pan??? Also a automatic combine header height called the "Robot"!!! We put one on our gleaner E back in the day. Anymore details anyone?? Ryan

Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 6:21pm

9 speed transmission for Farmalls. With piston technology being so much better in todays market. They still seams to be alot of interest in old piston technology.

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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 6:29pm

What was the deal with the deeper oil pan??? I'm kinda remembering something about it. Ryan

Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 7:04pm

Doesn't SealPower have something similar to the M&W piston kits. Thats what I put in my 7060 and it starts much better in cold weather.

Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 8:11pm

Powerseal or Sealpower sticks in my mind. They have been in my 7045 for ten years now. I run an oil pan heater for winter use, as the motor fires way to fast for cold oil. If I was to rebuild the 7080, I would want them.

Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 8:33pm

Put a PowerSeal kit in our last WD45 overhaul. It's supposed to be the current iteration of the M&W PowerAdder kit from the past. It not only increased the compression, but also the displacement by increasing the bore by 0.125". Tractor starts & runs great and makes over 50 HP. Kip

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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 8:35pm

powRseal is the name they now use.

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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!

Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 9:03pm

I knew Elmo Meiner and Art Warsaw back in the day. Those two were real entreprenuers and innovators. Eventually they split and Elmo ended up with M&W and Art moved his operation to Colfax, IL and started A&W dynamometers. I always liked to talk to Aaron Warsaw, Art's son. His office and factory was across the street from my office. Art would leave on a selling trip that could be any where in the world and send back orders for dynamometers that would keep the factory busy for months.

M&W was an innovator in tillage equipment and grain dryers, they also procuced the "Little Red Wagon" when a 400 bu wagon was a monster. Elmo had a lot of ventures, one of them was producing golf cars that had Cadillac and Rolls Royce bodies in Cooksville, IL.

Those two were a couple of the last great innovators in agriculture.

Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 9:42pm

Ryan Renko, the deeper oil pans were for added capacity to allow the oil to cool better. Saw them mostly on 4010's with M&W blowers in the earlier days. There was a lot of experimentation in those days. Oliver got many bad knocks with the 1855, it was basically the same motor as the 1955, except it did not have adequate oil cooling. My 1855 broke a camshaft discing one day. And when we got it into the dealers shop, the cam bearing looked like worms had eaten the babbit between block and cam. They had a repower program where they installed a new 1955 engine in it's place. As I remember it still cost about 7500 difference which was about what an overhaul minus injection rebuilds cost.

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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:31pm

Got PWR Seal in the 220,8070(good stuff) and the 45.Problem is they dropped comp on the 45 knock offs.

Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 4:54am

M&W is currently owned by the alamo group and sold through:

http://www.herschel-adams.com/ - http://www.herschel-adams.com/

Tractor Parts & Accessories

We offer an extensive line of new and rebuilt tractor parts for all major tractor brands. Our line consists of:

Overhaul Kits for most
makes of tractors
Tune-Up Kits
Gasket Sets
Carburetors
Starters
Spindles
Steering Parts
Decals
Electrical Parts

1-Year Warranty On All Tractor Parts

Seats
Hydraulic Parts
Radiators
Manifolds
Three Point Hitch Parts
Mufflers
Oil & Water Pumps
Brake and Clutch Parts
Pow'r Seal® Engine Parts
M&W® Dual Hubs
Many Other Popular Parts

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 4:57am

direct link to their flyer for engine kits

http://www.herschel-adams.com/userdocs/literature/EngineKit.pdf - http://www.herschel-adams.com/userdocs/literature/EngineKit.pdf

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 5:03am

M&W tillage is now Operated as Earthmaster

http://www.earthmastertillage.com/ - http://www.earthmastertillage.com/

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 12:27pm

Does anyone make High compression pistons for 301's anymore?

Posted By: Eric[IL]
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 12:47pm

Great info link. I have a 1978 K2 gleaner diesel 433T orange engine. Which tractor engine rebuild kit would I purchase to use in my gleaner for its rebuild - 6060 or 6070?

Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 3:24pm

Eric.check out tbran's post 12/27 (on pg 5 right now).Injector tips and comp ratio were all superceded to 8010 stuff