Draining Block to Prevent Freezing
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Topic: Draining Block to Prevent Freezing
Posted By: Zyta
Subject: Draining Block to Prevent Freezing
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 7:49pm
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Question: if I have drained the rad .....plus let the block drain dry out of the drain hole on the side of the block, am I safe from freezing and splitting the block??
Jim
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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 7:53pm
What tractor are you doing this on?
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 7:54pm
Should be. The only problem with that is you have steel and cast exposed to air so things can rust. A lot of people did it for years before anti-freze was readily available.
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 8:00pm
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HAVE SEEN BLOCKS CRACK EVEN WHEN DRAINED WITH MOISTURE IN IN PARTINGS
OF CASTINGS WHEN MOLDED WATER IN OIL IN SPRING IS GOOD POLICY TO USE ANTI -FREEZE MY 2 CENTS
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Posted By: enginepat
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 9:37pm
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Anti freeze is the best way to store it, cheap insurance.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 10:14pm
Draining the rad leaves some coolant left in the block. It is possible for those places to freeze and crack. Use 50/50 antifreeze and water and you should not have any problems.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Posted By: Teddy (punchie)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 5:49am
Drain it hot or warm, watch getting burned. Did it for years on WD,s and Farmall H's.
I try to keep anti-freeze in them. Get in a rush and forget one time and freezes or overheats , 50/50 is a good mix. Test ever year around now, right before the real cold comes. We try to use old filtered anti-freeze mixed with new, anything that is too dirty or bad we add to the Cal-water for the tires, and replace with cleaner mix.
Just took the head of a Wd that was never off, looked ok for 60 years old. Boy they made a good engine. Dress it and checked for troubles a bolted on one that had a cracked head. Water past the weather head, 2 & 3 cylinders rusted on the tractor it came off of.
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Ac D-19, a Number of WD's, One WD45, Two 444 balers, Ac plows and etc.
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Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 7:40am
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Thanks for the information. The engine is a 262 six cylinder Buda in a WD-45 tractor that I am restoring.
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:17am
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The other thing... sometimes there's enough sediment build-up down near the bottom of the block that it'll trap a little moisture. oftentimes, the moisture will have enough 'move room' so that it won't put stress on the castings, but not guaranteed that it won't break something internally... so draining is a good precaution, but better to drain it, then fill it with anti-freeze mix.
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Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 12:19pm
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I let a UC block freeze up and bust once when I thought I had it drained. When I tore it down it had enough sediment in the water jacket that it cracked the block behind the carb where they are thin. After all the work and money it makes a couple gallon of antifreeze look real cheap.
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Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 12:34pm
I have alot of projects at my house...one tractor I drain the water out of....rad leaks bad....I dont have the spare money to buy a new 400 buck rad when I need to spend money on things that are way more important. Just gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 5:34pm
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Picked up a couple jugs of antifreeze. Thanks for the good advise. I am slow at finishing my projects due to kids sports etc... definitely don't want to start over on this one as its almost done.
Thanks again!
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