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Topic: CA vs B
Posted By: R.W
Subject: CA vs B
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 5:43pm
For one row cultivating? I know a B is a true one row tractor, but a CA is only 10 inches wider and has PAW wheels, snap coupler, 4 speed, hand clutch, WD hydraulics. Do you think a CA would work good for one row work?



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Posted By: deereequipment1
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:07pm
obviously, you must be talking about a wide front CA.
A tricycle CA makes a REally nice 2 row tractor. I personally never have seen a wide front CA. Are there many out there?


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Raised on a CA,WD,D10 & D15.

Now, proudly own and pull a WD45 high crop, WD45, WC,
also own a D-10, D-12, G and a CA.


Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:11pm
All the CA's I've seen in this area are wide front.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:12pm
I have one. I've seen more wide fronts than narrow.

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Posted By: deereequipment1
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:17pm
do the wide front axles adjust in and out, to compensate for the rear spin outs?


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Raised on a CA,WD,D10 & D15.

Now, proudly own and pull a WD45 high crop, WD45, WC,
also own a D-10, D-12, G and a CA.


Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:19pm

Yes the wide fronts are adjustable.



Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:40pm
CA is a sweet little tractor, much nicer than the B.  4 speed tranny and hand-clutch sure makes it handy, although I don't know how well it would work for a  1 row.  Depends on the row width I guess.  You would have to convert a 2 row into a 1 row, or make your own somehow.

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30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52


Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by HagerAC HagerAC wrote:

CA is a sweet little tractor, much nicer than the B.  4 speed tranny and hand-clutch sure makes it handy, although I don't know how well it would work for a  1 row.  Depends on the row width I guess.  You would have to convert a 2 row into a 1 row, or make your own somehow.
I have alot of room to work with so making the rows alittle wider is not a problem. And I would most likely modify a 2 row cultivator to work.


Posted By: pumpkinman
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 8:26pm
Frist thing you would have  to remove all snap coupler hitch mountings and draw bar to mount a one row [ B ] cultavtor on a [ C A ] and fabricate new mountings where the cultavtor frame mounts to the foot rest bar as the [C A ] is different there than a [ B ] and revamp the hdl. lift.  yes the [ C A ] is a little  nicer than a [ B ]   BUT a [ B ] is a ONE ROW CULTAVTING TRACTOR !


Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 8:55pm
Originally posted by pumpkinman pumpkinman wrote:

Frist thing you would have  to remove all snap coupler hitch mountings and draw bar to mount a one row [ B ] cultavtor on a [ C A ] and fabricate new mountings where the cultavtor frame mounts to the foot rest bar as the [C A ] is different there than a [ B ] and revamp the hdl. lift.  yes the [ C A ] is a little  nicer than a [ B ]   BUT a [ B ] is a ONE ROW CULTAVTING TRACTOR !
It will be a tractor that is used to cultivate (and plow and disk) the garden. You are right the "B" is a cultivating tractor and most implements are made for one row farming. It is a simple tractor but is what I need!


Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 9:26pm
whyt reinvent the wheel. the B is made for 1 row and has implements designed for 1 row work. you will need to custom make every thing for a CA to do one row .. iF YOU WANT A ca YOU MIGHT AS WELL CULTIVATE TWO ROWS. We always set our garden up to cultivate two rows when I was a kid.  I t worked very well we also cross checket potatoe hills and cross cultivated them. A NF works best for row crop work.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 9:39pm
No reason you can't use the CA, even a narrow front CA for a one row cultivating tractor. Just mount one side of the cultivator on the tractor and leave the other side in the barn. :)

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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 9:53pm
the CA doesn't have as much clearance in the center of the tractor as the B has.
Just get a B and a CA. Sounds like a good reason to buy 2.
You can pull almost as much with a B as you can with a CA. I farmed 14 acres with a B for years. Now I have 1 acre and have 14 tractors. Bob


Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:05am
Get the CA, put on a three point and get a one row cultivator.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:20am
Bob,
That's funny! I like your thinking. Sounds like me. 3.5 acres and dozen Tractors... LMAO!  There's somethin' screwy here....
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Posted By: pumpkinman
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 12:43pm
 R W  - You are right . You only know your needs and wants. So far you have compared a wd-45 to ca and a ca to a B  and continually state that you want to cultivate one row at time. You can use any tractor to due that from a simplicty walk be hind garden tractor to a D21 with a 20 ft. tool bar cultivator by oving or removing the shanks and spacing the rows right.


Posted By: jhid
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 4:10pm
If you' not sure which one you really want, look for a CA or B and whatever comes up first in the condition you want grab it

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Posted By: Robert Mull Georgia
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 4:43pm
If you have a CA and the two row cult. for it why would you not use it as a two row. I had a CA and before I found the two row cult. for it I modified a cult that was made for a B and used it for one row.


Posted By: Scott(SC)
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 5:29pm
I would suggest a D10 with factory 3 point hitch. Best of both worlds.


Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 6:22pm
I have chose to buy a "B", I have compared it to my other options and seems like the only wise choice for what I am guna use it for. The D10 is NOT a option WAY too much $$$!


Posted By: Charlie (NC)
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 8:39pm
CA's were used one row down here in tobacco country.   Tobacco rows are wide so the extra width didn't matter.  There are one row cultivator frames for CA's.  They are just like the ones for D 10's.  


Posted By: Charlie (NC)
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 8:41pm
In fact I saw a CA set up for one row sittng in a salvage yard about 2 months ago, cultivator frames and all.  Fortunately the guy had the good sense not to cut it up and had set it off to the side.  Unfortunately for me things are financially tough these days and I was selling stuff I didn't want to part with.  No way I could rescue the CA. 



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