Strange Allis
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Topic: Strange Allis
Posted By: AJ
Subject: Strange Allis
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 6:57am
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I was in a Sams Club the other day and saw a tractor book that I picked up at had to look at. It was a book of all kinds of tractors. There was one tractor that caught my attention. I believe it was a allis b or c with a loader on the back and appeared to go in reverse. Anyone have any ideas on this one? Or maybe it is an over seas tractor. I don't know. Should have taken a picture of it.
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 6:07pm
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You should have bought it so we could see the pic. I guess I've never seen a B or C reverse loader but it could happen maybe. It could have been a TLB, there was a small # of them built by Tractomotive Company using the B's, would love to have one of those. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: TomMN
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 6:48pm
Did it look like this? This is a TLB. |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:30pm
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No but that is a really cool tractor. Are they hard to find? The one I saw was longer in the back. ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:43pm
Here is a WC reversed.
 ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:43pm
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Is that allis? ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:44pm
| I don't see why you couldn't build one. I've seen a reversed C with a Fofklift on it. I'm sure it was shop built somewhere. it was inuse at a Allis dealer many years ago. seemed to be pretty handy moving stuff around in the shop. |
Posted By: TomMN
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:50pm
There was the TLW too, I searched for Allis TLW and found this picture. I think it is Farrell from Utah that owns it. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:54pm
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They used a WF to build the TLW models. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 10:05pm
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Well speaking of strange AC's.....on tractordata there is a WS, WK, and S model listed...what were they? They dont include pictures. They also list an L model....never seen any of them.
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 10:09pm
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K, L, M and S are all crawlers and the WS and WK are wide gauge versions of them. There was also an L tractor from 1921-1927, less than 2000 made. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 10:54pm
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The way I understand it it's pretty simple to make a tractor run "backwards". All you have to do is flip the ring gear and reinstall it. Of course you'd also have to reverse the operator controls. I've got several old parts WDs and have considered doing this in the past. Having the drive wheels in the front would be a big improvement over a loader tractor. The only down side is you are pretty much limited to loader work only after the conversion. |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 6:44am
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That WF may have been what I saw. Seems it was smaller "body" though. I will take a picture of it if I can make it back up there soon.
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:15am
| I have seen WD's that were reversed, I have a RC reversed with a forklift mast on it, works great!! |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 7:39am
Here my L 15-25 Tractor .It is one of three tractor's that had the longfender .The 20-35 Longfender is the only of the 3 with longfender to be called a Longfender tractor ,because of in 1927 AC changed the 20-35 to cut cost and shorten the whole tractor by 18 inches plus shorten the fender ,and that is where the name 20-35 longfender came from .18-30 also has longfenders .
The L 15-25 also did not have a AC engine ,it was a Mid -West engine witch was used in many other tractor besides AC. ofcorse When the later U came out AC had their UM engine.
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MNLonnie wrote:Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 4:37pm
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Nice looking tractor Fred. Definitely a rare one. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 4:47pm
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m16ty is right. You can take any of the old tractors from the 40s-50-60 era and just put the ring gear on the other side of the pinion inside the differential, and you have changed the direction. Turn the seat around and move the steering wheel.. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 8:15pm
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Does anyone have a TLB that they would want to get rid of. They look really fun to own. Don't have to run or be complete. Just like to have another project I don't need to put in the shop that has no room for anything else.... Man this hobby is fun!!! ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 8:21pm
| AJ, guess it's safe to say that you've got the ole tractor fever! LOL! Darrel |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 8:31pm
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Thanks. I'm only 25 and I'm loving this. ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 9:21pm
Do you have that tractor secured to the trailer by the radiator cap? |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 5:52am
| M16ty,Yes I DO,LOL ,that was to hold up crank handle so I could get more junk under tractor. |
Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 8:30am
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That radiator sure looks familiar! LOL I think it rode around in the trunk of my car for a day and then ends up straped to a trailer for a ride to PA by way of KC.
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Posted By: bincitybandit
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 4:21pm
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Here's a reversed WD for sale. It kind of looks like it has a mower on the front of it.........
http://www.bismanonline.com/wd_allis_chalmers_tractor - http://www.bismanonline.com/wd_allis_chalmers_tractor ------------- ALLIS: B, WC, G, G, D10, D12, D14, D14(NF), D15, D17, D17(NF), D19, D21, D21 MINNEAPOLIS MOLINE: U, U, U(NF), GB JOHN DEERE: L FORD: 871 Select-O-Speed CASE: 600 Combine |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 5:04pm
| John ,That was a crazy week . |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 5:18pm
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I'd like to have that reversed wd with the mower. ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 6:17pm
Wonder what their doing for a gas tank on that ? ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 6:22pm
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I've seen people ask as much for the single front wheel as he wants for the whole tractor. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 8:13pm
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...Lonnie, I was just gonna say that! Somebody needs to bring that baby home. Definitely has a rare and cool factor to it, especially with the single front(er, rear?LOL!) wheel on it.
Fred, I somehow knew you would be posting a picture soon when I saw the question asked about a rare older AC. I must be psychic.LOL! Very nice unit, BTW. ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |