OT 8N is mine
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Topic: OT 8N is mine
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Subject: OT 8N is mine
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2011 at 8:35pm
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Got a call today that I could have the Ford 8N with Sherman Underdrive (I hope??) with the implements and rear chains for $1000. Implements are a Ford plow, springtooth, sickle mower, back blade and a homemade rear carrier. Will pick it up on Friday and move it into the garage and hopefully have it running soon. Nothing like a new color to see how things are different..... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2011 at 9:16pm
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Will you have to wear a mask to pick it up, and will the gun be loaded? :) It wasn't too long ago people wanted $2500 for a running 8N without any equipment.Sounds like a great deal. If it does have underdrive, you could mount the carrier and put her in low low and walk behind picking up punkins or whatever without a driver. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 4:46am
| Old Fords and Fergusons around these parts are losing their luster, too small to bush hog more than grass, too big to use for lawn mowers but reasonable large garden units, biggest problem is they are so prolific the numbers are driving values down. Co-worker sold a 2N for $2000 with newer rubber and paint, had a two bottom, a 6 foot single row disc and a 4 foot mower, all he could get after advertising over a year. |
Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 5:20am
| Stick with AC equiptment, it will never let you down. |
Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 5:38am
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How about some pics Eldon. Sounds like a good deal ------------- '40 WC puller, '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 7:28am
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Nothing wrong with other colors. Pictures, pictures, we want pictures! ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 7:32am
| Eldon you done good! Iv'e never owned one but they seem to stay popular though as already said worth less these days. |
Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 9:20am
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Congrats! I love mine! ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 9:47am
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Everybody says there worthless. But a Allis B can be worthless for alot of things too because it dosent have alot of power. I would think they would be good tractors as long as you don't use it for things outside of its limits. Good luck with your new tractor! And pictures would be nice! |
Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 9:51am
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they're cheap around here too, without the sherman. With sherman the price would be more around 4500 or better. |
Posted By: SenseiCrusher
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 10:05am
| 8N's around my parts go for $1,200 to $1,500, with attachments $1,750 to $2,000. Restorations are close to $2,500. As others mentioned it is a bit small for most real work, even the Gentlemen farmers are heading north of 45 HP. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 10:17am
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Hey Eldon,
I hope the sickle bar mower is the side mounted unit with the shorty pitman arm that allows it to mow vertically like the A-C "Twin-Wheel" series mowers.
Neighbor farmer had one of those back in the 50s and he kept his hedgerows trimmed up real nice.
I also hope it has the "underdrive" as the reverse in some of those 8Ns was awfully fast!
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 10:36am
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Eldon, sounds like you did good. They were very popular little tractors around here. The implements should be worth at least half of the price. I think you will find it very handy around your operation. Post some pictures.
------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 8:30pm
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Does everyone have their Christmas light up? ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 8:57pm
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Hey Jeff, Christmas lights have nothing to do with farm equipment. Please post in the correct forum and try not to high-jack other peoples topics.
Thank You
Randy
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 9:02pm
| Glad to hear you got it. It will make you appreciate your Allises a lot more! I grew up (maybe should say "got older") with my butt on the seat of an 8N, and after getting a D14, I don't care if I never see another 8 N. I'm sure the under drive will make it some what more desirable, though. Darrel |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 9:47pm
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Looking forward to pictures. They're neat little tractors and if I woke up one morning to find one sitting in the yard, I'd probably keep it. My neighbor had an 8N or 9N and I wish I had asked him more about farming with it when I had the chance. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 1:48pm
| Eldon, good for you. You will find many uses for that 8N, especially with that rear carrier. I made a carrier for Dads red belly Ford and it only came off when he was doing row crop, etc. It was great for fence repair, etc. Also easier on the fuel. I like our D-14, but must admit that it is not as easy to get on/off. |
Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 2:35pm
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How are those on fuel. |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 2:52pm
Hey RW, This is the Allis Chalmers Farm Equipment Section. But since this topic {Fords} has nothing to do with Allis Chalmers, Do you like pizza? I do. ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
R.W wrote:Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 2:53pm
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They burn it. ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 3:20pm
Uncle loves his 8N to death.....his firewoood tractor.
Me personally....I think the flathead 4 doesnt have the power to pull the skin off a lardvark ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 3:39pm
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What is a lardvark?
Can you eat them? ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 4:16pm
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My experience trying to plow with an 8N is that the engine had enough HP to let the three point lift the rear wheels so they'd spin and dig deeper anytime I got the plow digging good. Enough hp in winter to let me ram a three point blade into a drift and to break the light weight blade.Other wise I consider it a toy and am glad I no longer have it. Gerald J. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 8:48pm
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I plowed an acre of Virgin ground with my great uncles 8N. Only trouble I had was when I hit a piece of limestone that was about 12 inches wide, 2 feet long and 6 inches thick. The next year I had trouble with the stalks plugging it up a few times, but we pick over 200 bushel off that acre. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Rogers
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:14pm
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I've got an 8N I'm working on now. I've got a 185 too. Thought I would work on the 8N first. Paid 1000 dollars for it many years ago. All I did then was get it running. Finally decided to do more. I put a coat of paint on it last weekend. I will put it together this weekend unless I get lazy and watch the SEC championship game Saturday afternoon. Probably watch the game and finish the tractor in two weeks. ------------- Think for yourself and be your own expert. Be willing to change your mind; however, willingness to change your mind doesn’t mean that you will. Blindly following any path is the pinnacle of insanity. |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:15pm
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So what is a lardvark??? ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:22pm
Do you mean an aardvark???  ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Dannyhtn
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:27pm
| Most of the farmland in this area up through the 60's was farmed by small fords. They did all the row cropping, hay, and pasture work, as well as helping with firewood, fencing, and transportation. Some of the old timers did not drive and used the 8 n's to get to country stores. They did the job well and increased acreage over what was done with mules. I still used my Dad's Jubilee for teddering, raking, spraying, and bushhog work too tight for my 190. |
Posted By: Dean(IA)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:44pm
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Well, I have to jump into this discussion. Dad always had at least one A-C, but for many years, he had an 8N Ford. We called it Leapin Lena. I raked hay for hours and hours every year with that little tractor. Gnats always follow a tractor and swarm around the highest part. Guess what, that was the head of the driver. We had an old McCormick horse-drawn rake with the tongue cut off and a tractor hitch added. That old horse rake would only stand about 1 1/2 MPH, so raking took a long, long time. We made lots of hay and straw, so I spent many days with the old 8N. Along about 3 in the afternoon, the Ford was buzzing along, it was nice and warm, and I had eaten a big dinner. I would get sleepy and the windrows would get kind of crooked, or sometimes, a lot crooked and wavy. The other part of the story is that I learned to cultivate corn with that darn tractor, 2 shovels in front on each side, on both sides of the row. The JD 490 that we had was sprung, so every 8 rows, the row would jog about a foot when we cultivated crossways(wire check corn was what everybody planted so that we could cross-cutlivate). Needless to say, I straightened out that jog a lot when I got done.Sorry for the rambling post. |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 5:43am
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Jeff,
Its an old time expression I heard from my dad and it just kind of stuck.........thats all I know ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 11:38am
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We ran 158 acre farm w/ 40 cows with the 8N my grandpa bought new in '52, that my Dad bought when he got out of the Army in the late 50's. Plowing, planting, mowing, raking, baling, corn picking and combining. We cheated with the combine for many years, it was a Massey Clipper 50 with a Wisconsin motor. We ran the AC 60 with it, but had trouble with ground speeds and the non-live PTO. The next year, (I turned 18), Dad bought a Massey 175 and a 3 bottom F145 16" John Deere plow. The 8N retired to planting and towing duties after that. I have the tractor, it is my only "non-AC" one. As far as I am concerned, it is priceless. ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 7:03pm
Picked it up today. Here are some pics. After a closer look, it is the Sherman hi/lo tranny. Very little wear on the pedals, implements look complete and straight, extra sickle for the mower, mud chains for the rear tires, stabilizer bars and drawbar were there too. Sheetmetal is near perfect....just missing the oil cup for the air cleaner. Here are some pics.
    Anyone know what this wheel might be from? Looks like Ford grey paint on it...
 ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 7:40pm
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That a good deal you got on the 8n with all the equipment.
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 8:42pm
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Looks like you got a great deal. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 6:46am
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DonDittmar, Thanks.
I've never heard that one before. My Dad hade some also but not for printing on this site. You know who would spit his soup all over the cat again.  ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 6:47am
 ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 6:47am
 ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 6:50am
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Did I say hade?
Hade and similar can mean: In geology, the angle of inclination from the vertical of a vein (geology), fault, or lode: it can be a noun or a verb Jane Hading is a French actress Hading is a form of Hadingus, a legendary early Danish king Hade is a village in Hedesunda municipality in Sweden ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 6:51am
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I meant had. ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 6:53am
 ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2012 at 7:31pm
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Success! Fired up the 8n for the first time today after tinkering with it for the past week. I had to rebuild the distributor, new points, plugs, cleaned the carb, cleaned gas tank and sediment bowl, add coolant....pulled it less than ten feet and it fired up. Runs nice and quiet, no leaks, squeaks or knocks...Sherman tranny was fun to play with, took about 1000 feet to get it up to speed in 12th gear. Back tires are flat-spotted so that was an experience! Governor sure doesn't have the snap of an AC though. Just a few little problems to fix and it should be able to go to work or hit the auction block.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |