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Topic: Raincap for underhood muffler
Posted By: waynem
Subject: Raincap for underhood muffler
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 7:55am
Hi all I have a 1939 AC b with an underhood muffler. Does anyone know of a raincap to fit on the rectangular opening of the muffler? Thanks in advance Wayne

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Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 11:06am
Cut the top out of these!!
 
 
 
You may try the rain cap of of a 6670 6680 or 6690 Agco. They have kinda of a rectangle outlet on the muffler.


Posted By: RockyBottomFarm
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 12:02pm
Can I get a pic of your muffler?

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Posted By: cmsmoke
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 12:20pm
I installed a raincap on my "C" with that muffler. I made the square outlet round by driving a piece of round stock or the right size deep well socket (check to see if it fits inlet first...they are the same size) into the outlet, then tap around the outside with a hammer to make it round and relieve it some to be able to pull out the round stock. Then put a standard rain cap on it.


Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 3:19pm
I did kinda the same thing cmsmoke mentions.



Posted By: Hartland Farm
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 3:31pm
The reason the exhaust pipes are mashed to an oval on these tractors is to cause the proper back pressure on the engine. The way we run these tractors as collectors it doesn't make any differerence but to get the best preformance from any engine it must have the right amount of back pressure.


Posted By: RockyBottomFarm
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 3:39pm
Still waiting for pic of muffler.....

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38 & 41 B, sickle mower, 2 way plows, rear field cultivator, 2 row drill planter
40 Combine
66 Combine
Roto Baler


Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by Hartland Farm Hartland Farm wrote:

The reason the exhaust pipes are mashed to an oval on these tractors is to cause the proper back pressure on the engine. The way we run these tractors as collectors it doesn't make any differerence but to get the best preformance from any engine it must have the right amount of back pressure.
I am curious I always thought back pressure was a bad thing, no matter how little there was?  Can you help me understand how some is good?
 
Anthony


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Posted By: Greg (Hillsboro, OH)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 4:32pm
Rocky, go to the link for parts at the top of this page, and go to tony carbaughs site and look at the mufflers there.  you'll see a picture of the B underhood muffler there.


Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 4:50pm
Here's the one we run on our 38B. 

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Posted By: waynem
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 5:12pm
Rocky I can't get a picture tonight but it looks just like the one Jim posted. I would like to keep the original rectangular shape of the muffler.

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1939 Model B


Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 10:05pm
The early B didn't have a muffler, they used a straight pipe. Prior to engine # BE43896.
The under hood muffler started with engine #bE43896 thru tractor # 114400. then they went to the thru the hood muffler.
Having the pipe pinched closed also will not let much rain enter the muffler.
Talking about back pressure, a friend of mine put 3" dual exhaust pipes on his Suburban and his gas mileage got worse then with the stock exhaust. Bob


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 3:11am
shucks...just put a soup can over it with a small chain or wire screwed into both...when ya start it, it'll blow off and stay until ya put it back on!


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 3:23am
Who needs a raincap on a tractor muffler? The wife's car sets outside and the B goes in the garage.

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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 4:20am
Right.
And if it's raining I don't run the tractors.


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Posted By: cmsmoke
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:21am
I don't believe making the outlet of the exhaust round hurts or changes the backpressure enough to worry about. The area of the opening is the same. The exhaust direction changes slightly outward into a fan shape when it is flattened. That is the place the backpressure would change, slightly. How many tractors were missing mufflers from the early start of life and still running strong today? Some didn't even have a muffler when they were new. 


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 6:44am
Dan has a pretty good idea with the Black Pepper can. One of those would probably fit right over the end of the tube. I just cut the top off a plastic water bottle and place them over the pipes of the Tractors after they cool down. This way if I forget to take one off and start the Tractor and have "lift off", it doesn't hurt anything. Boy, they launch too! Don't ask me how I know that....  LOL!
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 7:03am
As far as the pinched pipe relating to back pressure you may be right , I have had several WC's with the squashed pipe and noticed the noise is much less than with just a round pipe. Could this be the reason they pinched the end ?



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