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Topic: hd19h

Posted By: michale34
Subject: hd19h
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 2:35pm

I know a guy who has a hd19h its been sitting for 20 years he said it was running when his dad parked it where it is now . the 6 71 detroit fired up the other day but someone shot holes in the radiator with a .22 and they did not try to move it. what would a machine like this be worth for sale it had a cable blade and underracarrage looks real good.

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Posted By: michale34
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 2:36pm

sorry it has a cable blade on it

Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 10:04pm

sorry cant say anything as to value but i would love to own it

Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 6:21pm

are they selling it to get scrap iron value, or are they negotiable so that it gets a good home? Darrel

Posted By: michale34
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 8:58am

well they sold it for 5k so thats was probably scrap value . they told me the guy who bought it had another one that was a push cat and he was going use that for parts or fix.

Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 4:24pm

Hope he fixes it up, Darrel

Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 5:00am

For the record on HD 19's

A neighbour has one that has been prodified, originally as a farming tractor.

Now 8-71, Spicer heavy duty off road 6 speed box, air cab (very professionally done) and the correct Allis paint which he is using to pull a blade plow.

Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 1:15am

Be interested to know how the bevel gear pinion ends up where its supposed to

Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 2:16am

Mactractor,

If that's on my post on the prodified one -

It still uses the original Allis rear box. If I remember correctly that is where reverse happens, the Spicer box doesn't have one. Neighbour had to do a bit of work on the shaft between and found that there had been a bearing change in the front of the original rear box to allow some movement - no splines in the shaft.

As my neighbour says whoever did it knew exactly what they were doing, including finding that the Spicer box would just fit between the rails.

Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 2:56am

The truck joey boxes had no reverse as there was always one or more in the main box. I believe some joey boxes bolted directly to the main - no drive shaft between

Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 3:02am

Mactractor

So our telescopes are pointing the same direction I've just cross checked with the owner.

This HD 19 originally had a 6/71, a diesel converter, a drive shaft and an Allis 2-speed + reverse box.

It now has an 8/71, a Spicer box (6 + R) a drive shaft and the original Allis 2 + R box.

So he has plenty of ratios to play with. He hasn't tried Spicer reverse plus Allis reverse to see if it goes forward.

Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 3:49am

Very clever bit of downunder engineering to get favorable ratios for drawbar work Ian.

Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 4:16am

For the spares side - my neighbour reckons that a lot of things are HD 21 though you might have to change both sides to match the spline.