Wagon Tongues?
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Topic: Wagon Tongues?
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Subject: Wagon Tongues?
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 11:34am
| Could someone post some pics of thier AC wagons? I am interested in the place where the tongue attaches to frame and tongue hitch. Thanks Tracy Martin |
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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 3:56pm
Not my wagons, but maybe what you want ?
   ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 7:42pm
| Randy,nice wagons, those are the places I need. Could you possibly take a closeup of just the attaching poit to tractor, and pivot part at wagon frame? Thanks Tracy Martin |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 8:01pm
Tracy, These wagon's are not mine. They belong to Marion Klutzke. I could try to get additional pics when I'm down there next but don't know when that will be. ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Tracy Martin TN wrote:Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 8:48pm
| Randy, any help is appreciated. I appreciate your time with the pics. I hope others will post as well. The info is always appreciated. Thanks Again, Tracy Martin |
Posted By: Bill (E.C.MO)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 8:59pm
|
Tracy,
Here are a few pictures I have on file and handy. If you need more views I can take some tomorrow in the daylight. I've noticed two different styles of tounges on AC/Electric Wheel running gears, the one pictured below and the one used in Rfdeere's first two pictures above. Apparently they also made a fifth-wheel style, although I've never seen one of these.
 Obviously, the hitch pin is my attempt at creativity and not factory:
 ------------- A-C's currently on the farm: B, CA, 2 D-17 D's, One Eighty, ass't implements. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 9:30pm
| Bill, that helps also. I am looking at the differant way the hitches and pivot at tongues attach. They did make a high speed fifth wheel. Would love one of those. Just trying to figure out how too fix some farmer repairs and need the pics to do them right. I have seen three differant tongue hitches. Looks like at least a couple of variations. I need to see where tongue attaches to horizonal pivot at the steering pivot at the frame.As always, any help appreciated. Thanks Tracy Martin |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 9:38pm
| Do you know which model you are looking for? I have a # 701 that needs rebuilt there also, abad repair had been done to it. |
Posted By: Bill (E.C.MO)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 10:01pm
Tracy, does this help? It's scanned from an AC model 605 gear parts manual.
 ------------- A-C's currently on the farm: B, CA, 2 D-17 D's, One Eighty, ass't implements. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 10:23pm
| Bill, that helps greatly. Don, I am working on the 7 and 8 ton wagon gears. Bill, what is the manual number for your parts manual. I would like to buy one if possible. If not I would gladly pay you to scan yours for me. I would like one of each model if possible. Thanks for the help, you guys are the best. Tracy Martin |
Posted By: Bill (E.C.MO)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 11:15pm
|
Tracy, that scan is from an owner's manual/parts book for a model 605 wagon, catalog no. 2013776. It's not a fancy manual, just four pages, but does have parts diagrams and details for optional equipment. I also have manuals for 405 and 700 model wagons. Don't really want to sell these (although I would eagerly trade for model 501 or 601 manuals!), but would be happy to scan any that you would like. Shoot me an email (hsquarry AT aol dot com) and I'll reply with an attachment. ------------- A-C's currently on the farm: B, CA, 2 D-17 D's, One Eighty, ass't implements. |