HD6G pins & Bushings
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Topic: HD6G pins & Bushings
Posted By: Dozer
Subject: HD6G pins & Bushings
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2011 at 3:53pm
| Where can I purchase pins & bushings for my HD6G? |
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2011 at 3:59pm
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If your rail height is good you might find them doing a search for local track shop. smaller independant places . Can try Thill track and Tractor , Eau Clare WI, Northern Tractor Osseo MN, Crawler Welding Mankato MN, Northern Engine has couple of sites in the US.
Unsure of where you are located . also can try rock and dirt web site for adds for salvage or parts and track shops. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 6:54am
| I am located in south western New York state. I don't know of any track shops. I used to get catalogs from people selling crawler parts but they are out of business. I tried unsuccessfully on the internet. I spent a lot of time reading internet hits that were not relevent to crawler chain pins & bushings. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 11:13am
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Are you looking for just pins and bushing or full group? If just parts you will still need to find shop with track press . Has to be shops in area somewhere around you that do the work. PA and OH have to be places where dozer parts can be found .
Berco of America Aftermarket, WI
W229 N1420 Westwood Drive Waukesha, WI 53186 Phone: 262-524-2222 Fax: 262-524-2230 http://www.bercoamerica.com/t-contact.aspx?region=wi - Contact Us or find out who is dealer for this supplier . http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/456969596/track_chain_for_bulldozer.html - http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/456969596/track_chain_for_bulldozer.html
here is another idea ? rubber tracks . http://www.motiondynamicsrubbertracks.com/?gclid=CIDb9qLii6wCFUcDQAodNBPVnQ - http://www.motiondynamicsrubbertracks.com/?gclid=CIDb9qLii6wCFUcDQAodNBPVnQ ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 11:19am
 another listing for AC parts for many machines
http://www.tractorparts.com/allis_chalmers.htm - http://www.tractorparts.com/allis_chalmers.htm
[TUBE]UyF_b4tlEQk&feature=player_embedded[/TUBE] ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 5:56pm
| I have never used a track shop. Years ago I did pins and bushings on my HD5. I fabricated a portable press using a hydraulic cylinder and a porta power. I removed the master pin and grousers on portions of the links and replaced the pins and bushings without removing the chain from under the machine. I moved the machine back and forth to accdomplish this. I also did a small International using a modified arbor press. I'm going to purchase a complete set of pins and bushings. I will consider buying used chains. Thanks for the information. |
Posted By: dadsdozerhd5b
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 6:36pm
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there is a set of chains with idlers and drive sprockets on e-bay. they want about 3200+/-, can not remember the last bid. they were loader grousers that looked in very good condition. if you find a set of pins and bushings, please post where you got them as i have tried all mentioned places and all have said discontinued. good luck ------------- HD5B, HD5G, (2) FARMALL A's, CUB. DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, IGNORE THE LAUGHTER. FLANNEL IS ALWAYS IN STYLE. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 6:41pm
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I have had a couple tracks redone but don't quite understand how you did this as you need to separate the track by link to be able to push out the bushing as it is longer than the one section of the links so it's end indexes into the next link. only short bushing is the master bushing and that uses a cup washer on its ends to mantain space. They can push the pins out while removing just one set of track bolts but require the removal of full link to put in new bushings and pins.
IH track also has the same dementions as the AC track used on HD5/HD6
Site with some specs :
http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?22358-Converting-AC-HD6-Track-to-IH-Dresser-Track - http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?22358-Converting-AC-HD6-Track-to-IH-Dresser-Track ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 6:49pm
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Some history also
http://archives.hcea.net/index.php?p=collections/findingaid&id=86&q=Allis-Chalmers+HD20+crawler+tractor - http://archives.hcea.net/index.php?p=collections/findingaid&id=86&q=%22Allis-Chalmers%22+HD20+crawler+tractor ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: HD6 Merv
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 11:30pm
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Intertractor iTm also make HD6 tracks rollers and rims; as our iTm dealer in NZ sells them. Was told NZ2500 per chain which is approx US 2000 ------------- tits tyres and tracks they all cost you money |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 2:09am
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Guys: Has anyone taken a crack a machining their own Pins and Bushings by purchasing the stock and machining them on their metal lathes. I know - time consumptive, but thinking in worst case scenario when nothing is available, or said to be "not available" this could be done over a winter. Just a thought. Kind of ironic that rolls and rims are available in NZ but not USA? Merv - Love the tag line - sure is true!!!
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Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 8:49am
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I pushed the pins out of about 6 links beyond the link to have the bushing replaced. I was able to spread the links appart enough to remove the bushing where it enters into the link. In situations where this did not work I cut thru the old pin and bushing to separate the 2 sides of the link.
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 10:20am
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As the bushings and pins are heat treated and have a Rockwell hardnesss spec it would involve heat threating the parts also .
The inside bore of the link also has to match the bushing for a press fit clearance, then the pin is also a press fit clearance into other end of link ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 10:59am
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Coke in MN
I agree that there is a tolerence and hardness spec that would be dificult for an individual to produce pins and bushings. If there was enough volume perhaps some CNC shop could do it. It would have to be more than the one set that I'm looking for. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 11:15am
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Thee are tracks out there somewhere , its just a matter of finding them . Places like Thill Track and Tractor may have a lead and even though they are in Eau Clare WI, they may find a set in your back yard through their contacts and locator system.
If the HI tracks will fit but pads won't there may be a set of used or new IH tracks setting around also. I had Northern Tractor in Osseo MN find a set of pins and bushings somewhere to put in my HD4 rails . They also had a set of HD6 track I bought for my HD5G project I sold .
for a small shop to make up the parts would be above the cost one would be willing to pay I believe . It might be cheaper to have them shipped from NZ but then if they are in NZ they must be here in the US also, someone has them. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 5:11pm
| Our track shops in New Zealand import from the manufacturers in Europe. It cannot be too difficult for suppliers in the US to do the same |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 6:23pm
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BER$CO is the largest prodcer of name bran replacements , which is Italian , the sites I looked up also had links to China for replacement but they may be just for the late machines .
The Berco rep I talked to for the area here was like talking to a moron. I had found a set of track at Eldron Equip in WI that he had bought at a auction I took the numbers and sizes and wanted to see what they matched to but the rep would not tell me what they were for or what the specs were on the track I wanted .. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 7:15pm
| Sadly Coke, those morons are everywhere these days. The manager of the track shop I use (same one Merv made enquiries with) prints off any track specs we want. He has specs for all AC stuff. Maybe I could find out his European contacts. I think he once told me Berco would not do small orders. They set a minimum quantity each of his orders had to be |