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Topic: ? who has B-C with full Steel
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Subject: ? who has B-C with full Steel
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 7:06am

How many of you guys have a B or C with full set of Steel Wheels ,with the heavy rear center .Just to see just how many are out there ,plus the ones no one knows of .

Uncel Bill has 2 set's



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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 7:35am
I have 2 sets without heavy centers.

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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 8:18am
I have one full set of all steel but no heavy centers, and a couple of sets of steel rears with cut off fronts.

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Posted By: MikeinLcoMo
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 10:02am
I've got a set of heavy centers for both B and C. Willing to part with the C set for $200. Located in Mo. northwest of St. Louis. Can deliver along I 70 between here and KC for lunch. Mike


Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 10:04am
My non-computer friend has one near me.


Posted By: Ed in TX
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 10:09am
I have a set but no heavy centers.


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 12:28pm
There is a set East of town on a B also, not sure about the centers, I don't think they are heavy.

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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 12:43pm
I have 1 heavy center available.

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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 1:07pm
It seems like the heavy centers for the C's are pretty common, but B's are pretty scarce. We have a tractor bone yard near here that has 4 or 5 C's with the 4 notch heavy centers.

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Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 6:43pm
 have a set of heavy centers for a1-800-254-3116


Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 6:45pm
  hit too many buttons   heavy centers are for a C   1-800-254-3116


Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 7:10pm
I have a B on full steel


Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 7:53pm
Will this work, Fred. A couple of friends have B's  with steel & heavy centers, one by me in MI and one in OH
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 8:00pm
Question for you Bill, since a starter was standard on the C's how did you get one without a battery box or generator? What's the serial of the tractor and motor?

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Posted By: dpower
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 2:15am
here is our B with full steel and extensions. Also has adjustable arched front.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 5:05am
Nice lookin B Jason, and with all the goodies from swingin drawbar to adjs. front.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 5:09am
Originally posted by MNLonnie MNLonnie wrote:

Question for you Bill, since a starter was standard on the C's how did you get one without a battery box or generator? What's the serial of the tractor and motor?

A steel wheeled C would be a war tractor. Some war" tractors had a delete plate in place of the starter. I would guess if it was sold without a starter it wouldn't need a genny or battery.


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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 6:15am

From this angle it looked like a non electric tool box from a B but maybe it does have a delete plate.



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Posted By: Dale H. ECIL
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 7:31am
I have a 1940 B on full steel, heavy centers, ext. air pipe, ext. fenders, wish bone front weights, rear extensions with 2-way cast iron moldboard plow.

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Posted By: Crowman17
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 7:41am
I have the heavy centers on my C, but no steel wheels.
 
Marc


Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 8:49am
I have 2 sets, also one extension rim. One set is on a tractor, one set is next to the tractor that is in pieces. Also have the wide fenders and tall air cleaners, as well as cast valve covers and oil pans.

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Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 10:43am
MNLonnie., My C was built early in 1944 during  WWII. Alot of ractioning went on for the war effort, rubber, steel, copper, lead, and other things.  These items were deleted  or mixed & matched on a war time tractor B, C,and WC's (rear steel & front rubber, ect). The C has special parts because of this. Steel wheels, heavy cast rear wheel centers, taller aircleaner stack, battery and starter delete plug, castiron parts tappet cover, oil pan, and final drive covers.
 
hope this helps. have a good one BILL P


Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 11:30am
Originally posted by dpower dpower wrote:

here is our B with full steel and extensions. Also has adjustable arched front.
Shure is a cute little bugger!

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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 11:32am
Originally posted by dpower dpower wrote:

here is our B with full steel and extensions. Also has adjustable arched front.
 
All the goodies on that one.  Does it have the starter delete plate and the battery delete plate too?


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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by Dale H. ECIL Dale H. ECIL wrote:

I have a 1940 B on full steel, heavy centers, ext. air pipe, ext. fenders, wish bone front weights, rear extensions with 2-way cast iron moldboard plow.

Here's a picture of it that I took at one of the OPOP gatherings. It's a good looking tractor.




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Posted By: Tony.Or
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 12:39pm
 We  have  nice  rear steel with extension rims,  front   round spoke  cut offs ,  holding  up  the  early IB.   Probly  tossed  cast  centers  long  ago.      Tony

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Posted By: mdtractormechanic
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by BILLP-SE-MI BILLP-SE-MI wrote:

MNLonnie., My C was built early in 1944 during  WWII. Alot of ractioning went on for the war effort, rubber, steel, copper, lead, and other things.  These items were deleted  or mixed & matched on a war time tractor B, C,and WC's (rear steel & front rubber, ect). The C has special parts because of this. Steel wheels, heavy cast rear wheel centers, taller aircleaner stack, battery and starter delete plug, castiron parts tappet cover, oil pan, and final drive covers.
 
hope this helps. have a good one BILL P
Bill, interesting. My C was built mid 1944. I've rechecked the serial and it is plain to see. When I got this C it came with a short intake stack, batt. with starter, and steel covers for valve train, oil pan and final drives. I'm not sure if it had steel wheels or not. I wonder why there is a big difference between both wartime model?

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Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 7:50pm
Father purchased new in 1942 a "B" on steel that was a row crop. We saw a row crop "B" on steel at the GOTO in 2005 at UNION GROVE. Dad traded the tractor in 1945 for a new WF.
Mom has no pictures of the B. Does anyone else have a "B" vuilt this way?


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Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 9:42pm

Interesting thread.

Can someone post a picture of the "heavy center" versus "regular"?  Looking to learn.
Thanks,
BTW, very nice tractors above!


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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 9:57pm
Here is a pic of heavy centers. They have 4 mouse holes instead of 2 and are about twice as thick.Allis Chalmers C CA Tractor cast rear wheel centers (2)

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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker


Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 10:21pm
THE B HAS THE 4 NOTCH THICK REAR STEEL WHEEL HUBS,& THE IB HAS THE REGULAR 2 NOTCH REAR HUBS. I ALSO HAVE A WAR TIME B W/ REAR STEEL & EXT., STARTER PLUG, BTRY BOX PLATE HIGH AIR CLEANER, FRONT CUT OFFS & WIDE FENDERS. I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE SETS OF THE 4 NOTCH HEAVY HUBS FOR A C.


Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 10:29pm
Thanks Lonnie,
 
Now I know what to look for when they sell a pile of scrap for $10.  LOL  I missed a set of WC steel fronts for $5 cause it didn't know what they were......:(


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