WD45 vs CA
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Topic: WD45 vs CA
Posted By: R.W
Subject: WD45 vs CA
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 5:29pm
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What one do you think is better? Which one has more bang for what it is?
Which one is more of a all around tractor? ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
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Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 5:40pm
| Why the comparison? |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 5:47pm
| They were designed for diffferent size farms so you're comparing apples and oranges, as far as which is better. I like the 45 better, but the CA makes a better lawn mower and might be better for plowing small gardens plots. From what I've seen a nice CA can bring about as much as an average 45. So that would make a 45 a better value but give the CA better resale. I still prefer a 45. |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 5:52pm
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WD 45 Sounds more manly .... ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 5:53pm
Because I want to know if one is more useful than the other, looking for the best tractor to buy. ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
wkpoor wrote:Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 5:59pm
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More power with the 45 ..
more power you get more uses .
get er done quicker you git more time with da wife ....
or . gf ........
or more time at your favorite waterin hole ? ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:03pm
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What are you going to use if for??? For some things, a 16 oz hammer is the right tool, for other things a 5 lb sledge hammer is better.
------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:06pm
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I can't say what I would use it for. I live on a farm so I would use it for everything I could! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:14pm
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Well is it for play or work ? Again .. i,d take the 45 for everyday work , plowin the road , plowing a field , diskin , seeding , balein, haulin hay or bush hogin .
But if you give me a CA .. i,d take it off your hands ... ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:17pm
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It won't be a main tractor by any means, I will use it for alot of things, you could call it play insted of work. ;-) ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Roger Nolin
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:29pm
| just get one of each. then you will know! |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:41pm
| After reading the responses I have a new response. You first need to nail down the intended use and then that will determine which is better for you. One could very easily farm 10-20acres or more with a CA and 2 row implements. Outside of basic jobs for me the WD45 is too small so I have opted for a larger much newer utility tractor that can handle a loader real well and was designed to have one on it and then use the CA for basic stuff it was designed for. So I wouldn't have either for a utility tractor but either would be OK if you keep them inside of their comfort zone. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 6:47pm
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Get a 45. Can do all the light work and pull a 3 bottom plow and plus it is arguably the most famous tractor Allis ever built. yep 45. But then it's fun to rake with a tractor like a CA. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 7:00pm
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Check out the CA I have in the Classifieds section. I'm a few hours from you. CA's are a pretty healthy little unit to have.
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 7:35pm
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Raking hay, plowing the garden, mowing the yard, or cultivating with a 2 row front mount, the CA would be great. If you want to plow snow, scoop dirt, bush hog the waterways, plow some bigger patches, or anything where you might need to slip the hand clutch, the 45 is the tool for ya. Also if you want a loader for small odd jobs, the W9 can be had for half what a W8 would for the CA. I think you can buy a 45 in good mechanical shape cheaper than most CA's so you have more bang for your buck with the 45. Buy a 45, you won't be sorry. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: kffischer
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 7:42pm
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my vote is a WD or WD45. With an aftermarket 3 point hitch they can fill in for some of your more modern tractors. In my opinion CA is gonna be hard pressed to find a place on a modern farm. You can find things to do, but 90% of the equipment today is larger and heavier than the tractor so just towing the implement could be "unsafe" or break something on the tractor. The CA live pto seems less robust than the WD system, and if I recall parts aren't as easy to get as the WD clutch. If you are used to an independent pto of the more modern stuff and you like the modern hydraulics, forget both tractors! And if you need nice ergonomic and easy mounting platforms (joint/back problems), forget both tractors! If you want an older AC but want more modern operators station and modern hydraulics, look at the 170/180/190 models. D-series with factory 3 points and low pressure hydraulics would also be more modern in my mind. karl f
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Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 7:53pm
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WD45 easier to get on an off plus the oil run hand clutch makes this tractor very easy for young people to operate. Our 3 children all started to drive a WD45 before any other tractor on the farm. ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: Steve-Ohio
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 7:57pm
| WKpoor is off, WD-45 is a perfect size tractor. Plenty of power and agile. A great utility tractor and overall great value for your money. CA is just too light and doesn't have a lot of nicer amentities that the WD-45 has. And finally the CA is a pain in the behind to get on and off of easily. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 7:57pm
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This one is very easy. I love to use my "CA" for everything I do. It is small in size but has the HP to get the job done and also has the same hydrualic system as the "WD-45". The "CA" can use some of the snap-coupler equipment made for the "WD" & "WD-45" so some equipment is easy to find. How ever equipment made just for the "CA" gets harder to find.
Heres why I say it's easy. The "WD-45" weights more,has more HP, easier to find equipment & cost is about the same.
I vote for the "WD-45" ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: AaronH
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 9:04pm
| WD 45 all the way. Kind of a biased opinion, having never owned just ocasionally run the neighbors CA. But I can tell ya, I love mine. Will love it even more after the hometown pull on friday nite... lol. |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 9:49pm
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RW what kind of farm? WD45 would be best for hay and livestock work. |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2011 at 10:14pm
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 8:22am
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Corn and soybeans and a little hay is what we farm. The reason really is just to own a allis tractor myself like Dave said. I don't really consider the D series because most all of them are out of my price range. And it looks like the WD45 is the way to go! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 8:41am
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Now wait a minute. A CA is really fun to tool around on just for the thrill. :') ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 9:58am
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Another thought is that I have a Farmall Mta with a 3 point and a wd45 is about the same hp and with a 3 point adapter for the 45 I can use the same implements.
------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Orange Tractors
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 11:20am
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The CA is a nice little tractor, but I would go with a WD or WD45. More power, more things you can do. I plow my garden every year with my WD and Model 53 plow. One thing my WD does not do well is moving big bales of hay. I have a 3 point bale carrier, and while my tractor has plenty of power (I think it has a 45 crank) it is too light. The front end will come up and then you are steering with the brakes, until the bale drags off the rear.Not the tractors fault, big bales weren't around when the WD or 45 were designed.
Robert
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Posted By: bhalstead
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 4:04pm
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get the wd45 it has plutey of power and it is stroger then th m and h ------------- wd45 with 3 bottom plow |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 4:23pm
| Ive had both and the CA is gone now, hard little tractor for a old guy to get on and off. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 4:55pm
| I have both and if I needed to get rid of one it would be the CA. A WD45 is notmuch bigger but alot more power. handles 3 pt eguipment better. the PTO on A CA is so far off the ground that coman equiopment dosen't wook to well. The CA is better for mowing . thats because I have a woods Belly mower on it. The Hand clutch on the CA is usless compaired to a WD. and WD45s can be had for half the price of a CA. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 8:03pm
A 3 pt adapter may be fine for most things, but most don't activate the traction boost system, so plowing with the 3 point , you would be at a disadvantage on the WD45. If you use a Snap couple plow and switch to a 3 point, you will quickly learn the advantages of the SC traction boost system. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 8:52pm
| The WD45 will make you forget you have that Farmall, lol. |
Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 9:36pm
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I have both and I enjoy running both. I feel that the CA is being underrated in this. It just depends on what you want to do with it. Both have pros and cons. If you want to come on down, run both, then you can decided what you like. I would also think that what ever you can find close for a good price would be a good direction to go. Buy one now, the other later, either way you wont regret it. Good luck! ------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump. |
Posted By: Josh Day
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 7:09am
| I have a 52' CA and it is nice to have for the smaller things, and our WD is nice for the larger things, both are very good tractors,and just like Joe(OH)said, "Buy one now, the other later" is the way to do it. |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 9:52am
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I'm like Joe(OH), I have both. CA is great for mowing with a Woods L-306 belly mower. A WD-45 would be a little too much for that job. However, for field work the 45 gets the call.
Buy both. Whichever one comes up first, followed by the second one.
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 12:25pm
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I like you guys idea of buying both! ;-) ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |