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Topic: Spoked wheel and tire on C
Posted By: mdtractormechanic
Subject: Spoked wheel and tire on C
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 4:15pm
I'm looking at a 1942 C narrow front for parts and it has 2 spoked wheels with tires on the front. Was this ever done on a wartime C? They look like they may have come off a WC.

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Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU



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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 4:22pm
They are steel wheel cut-offs............

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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:07pm
Glenn,  I have to agree with you.  A lot of people did this after WWII.  Usually they just bought the front wheels for tires and installed them.  Whoever did with the spoked wheels had a good eye do they were done just right.  It was usually easier to just buy the new wheels and tires.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
ps:  If you have a picture I would love to see it


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:48pm
I have seen both Bs and Cs with the so called cut-offs on the front. Cut off the steel tire and weld on a rubber tire blank rim gives you a rubber tired steel spoked wheel. They did lots of rears the same way.
  Like Bill says it made more sense to just buy new wheels for the front. They were more than likely modified when you could once again get new tires after WWII.


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:51pm
I have a question for Bill Long. Were some of the early Bs built before the war delivered new on steel?


Posted By: mdtractormechanic
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 6:00pm
If that is the case then it may have been cheaper to do cut-offs to eliminate the purchase of front hubs (to bolt on the new wheels) and the rear centers for the new rims.

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Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 6:13pm
Parts were not that expensive back then. But Labor was cheap too. Getting somebody who could do it right was not a problem either.


Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:07pm
Yup, they're cutoffs. I've rebuilt a couple of sets with blanks from Miller tire. They're good as new and make nice looking front wheels on your B or C.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:15pm
      Good pictures !!!


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:54pm
Ken,  From memory only since my father's price book does not go back that far.  I do believe the B could be purchased new with steel wheels before WWII.  However, that was factory order only.  The B was made to run on rubber.
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 9:39pm
Thanks for your insite Bill.
   Some of the old prewar manuals on B tractor mounted handlift plows shows sketches of the Bs on Steel. Some Farmers for whatever reason did not believe rubber was good to the soil and wanted only a steel wheel tractor.


Posted By: Tim in Charleston
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 7:34pm
 have a 1040 model B  with the cut off wheels on them 



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