How do you move a hole ?
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Topic: How do you move a hole ?
Posted By: Larry Miller
Subject: How do you move a hole ?
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 7:17pm
I have had several situations where two bolt holes don't quite line up and one or both need to move less than half the hole size. Tried several things - all frustrating. How do you deal with that ?? Thanks, Larry Miller
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Posted By: E7018
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 7:41pm
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A tapered reamer fits some situations. Truck frames is one spot that I like one.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 9:02pm
Round file. Milling machine and an endmill or slot cutter. Ordinary drill bit cocked in the hole back and forth to make the hole oblong. It widens both sides though. Or just a bigger drilled hole. Electronic industry used to plan for 1/32" oversize just to account for alignment.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 9:09pm
Tap the hole to the nearest size, and locktite a bolt in the hole. cut the bolt off, grind it smooth, and relocate your hole.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 9:13pm
Bridgeport mill, Larry. You have room to expand your workshop and I'll come over and show you some things you can do with it.
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Posted By: Larry Miller
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 9:59pm
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I envy you guys with mills and skill to use them. When I get to live my life over - that is a skill I will put on the redo list. Ted - that is one I have not tried. I will put it on the should do list. Charlie - if you bring one over - I will make the room. Or, I can bring you a bag of holes and you can help me put them where they are supposed to be.
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 9:59pm
If it's mild steel, I weld the hole shut, grind smooth, then locate, punch, and drill new hole.
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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 10:04pm
Johnny Cash had the problem once.
He went to put in the bolts and all the holes were gone.
I hate it when that happens.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 11:30pm
Larry, Have you got a die grinder? Harbor Freight and the big box stores have some cheap ones that work OK but use more air than a good one. A carbide burr in a die grinder will fix you up in a very short time.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2011 at 11:57pm
I wanna see the bag of holes Larry. I almost bid on a bunch of used post holes at an auction cause nobody else would give a dollar for em. Then I got to thinking if they were used post holes, they would be filled up with old wood and some dirt around the outside so I didn't bid. I guess the farmer kept em.
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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 7:07am
I would suggest a shovel! As you dig the new hole throw the dirt into the old hole. They used to do that all the time when everyone had outhouses!!!
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Posted By: nsula_country
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 8:09am
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I like the tap, bolt, loctite method. I have done this before. Sometimes welding a hole can create more problems.
CT
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Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 8:13am
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Actually I just did that last week. I tapped out the hole to next size as stated before. I then took a grade 2 bolt and tightened the bolt into the last thread on the bolt as tight as I could get it without stripping the threads. I cut the bolt off on both sides of the 3/16 thick piece leaving the bolt about 1/16 high on both sides. I then placed the part on solid steel and pounded both sides down like a rivit with a ball peen hammer. (I peened both sides) This expands the bolt tight into the old hole. I then ground both sides smooth, center punched where the bolt needed to be and drilled a small pilot hole and then drilled it to size.
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 2:28pm
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I have welded holes shut and big ones I have welded bolts in as fillers and then cut them off and ground them flat..
I'm gonna try Dick's method the next time the ocassion arises!
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