Mowing your lawn with a finish mower?
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Topic: Mowing your lawn with a finish mower?
Posted By: Claus
Subject: Mowing your lawn with a finish mower?
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 12:27am
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Does anybody here mow their lawn with a 3pt mounted finish mower? I have a Deere compact tractor with a 72" mid mount mower, it's how I cut all of my grass. It does a pretty good job but I hate servicing the deck, it's very heavy and awkward to mount/dismount from the tractor. Which means blades don't get sharpened as often as they should and the deck doesn't get cleaned as often as it should. There are two big downfalls I can see in a 3pt finish mower but maybe these are not that big of problems once you use them. 1) you are running over the grass with all four tires before cutting it making it harder to lift and cut the grass blades. 2) when mowing around an obstacle the mower is swinging away from the obstacle so you need to go around everything backwards. Any thoughts? |
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Posted By: countryguy828
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 12:31am
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I think my Woods 6ft does a fine job behind my B. Use it mostly for open areas though. I have cut grass as tall as the front tires before, puts a heckuva pull on the motor.
Dave
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Posted By: kip in cny
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 12:37am
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I have a rhino 5ft finsh mower on the back of my 5020 It works great running over the grass is not a problem. Triming its not great on. I send the girlfreind out with the cub zero turn ahead of me to trim. The 3pt mower is easy to clean and sharpen blades on. I would recomend rhino mowers they are heavy duty and rear discharge so you dont have piles of grass like my dads brush hog 720 will do. ------------- 160 CA 920diesel 5020 HD-3 |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 12:40am
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Maybe the key is the girlfriend? I might be able to get a new finish mower past the wife but I have some real doubts about the girlfriend. Rear discharge is the only way to go. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 1:51am
| my bro has a 3-pt finish mower on the back of his toy JD tractor, he mows the same way and direction each /every time he mows, his yard looks bumpy. i tell him to change directions once and awhile and it would look better...i coulda just saved my breath! |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 5:59am
| I have both a 3pt finish mower and a woods belly mower. they both mow very well but the woods stays on its alot harder to remove than the 3pt. to sharpen and clean I just lift the 3pt up and use an angle grinder. I don't use the top link so when I lift it just stands on the back tires. |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 6:17am
| LOL on the girlfriend Claus! tehehe... I have L306 on CA with no problemmo and the WDNF pulls a 7 foot LawnHandler painted PO#2 and Cream by world famous Gary Alley which is actually a Land Pride. No problemmo, no tire marks. The Woods I jack one side at a time with hi lift...and sharpen 3 x a season and in the spring I take the 3 blades off and have em prof sharpened. The lawnhandler gets unhooked and tipped up against the telephone pole yearly for sharpening. |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 6:24am
Lawnhandler before decals... |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 7:04am
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I got tired removing decks from 'riders' a few years ago,plus every neighbour now knows me.... so for servicing the local garden/lawn tractors I just winch the front end up good and high with my chain falls in the garage.Don't know what your 'compact' weighs in at, but might be an option for servicing the blades and cleaning out the deck.Having wet grass stay in there will rot them out, and new decks are thin tin ! Won't last as long as 30 year old machines. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 7:12am
| Clas, I had a 6ft fronteer behind my compact JD it did a great job but yes a little clumsy for trimming. I now have a 11ft Busshog batwing gromming mower witch will o turn around obstacles, Not good in the corrners however. I cut the grass at our tractor club approx 20 acers in about 5 hrs. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 7:39am
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For your belly mower, a couple of car ramps work great for serviceing the blades, and deck. I have a 5' AC on my 5020
The finish mower works great. I think mine did a better job than the belly mower on the 5020. Definately buy a rear discharge, if you decide to go that way. I have an older woods, and would buy another woods if I needed. To mow around trees ect. I just cut past them, swung around and cut past them again, then when I cut past them doing the regular rounds, I got the other two sides. Sounds like a lot of work and time, but not really, once you get a routine down. Most of my trees are in somewhat of a line also, which helps! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 7:41am
| We used an 84" 3 point Landpride for many years. Mowing close to obsticles is only a matter of getting used to how it swings behind the tractor. As for running over the grass yes, in spring when the grass is growing fast and you get a bit behind you will see streaks from the tire tracks a few days after you mow, otherwise its not realy an issue. It somewhat depnds on how particular you are about the lawn. We also have belly mowers under B and C models and for ease of use I have to admit that the belly mower wins every time. Our mowing duties have lessoned in past couple years and the first one to go was the rear mount. |
Posted By: WEL(IN&TN)
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 8:43am
| I use a 6 foot First Choice finish mower behind my D14. Great combination. Trimming is done with a smaller mower. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 8:45am
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Another vote for car ramps. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Toneman1
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 9:02am
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I have been using a 5' Fred Cain finish mower for about 15 years which I pulled behind a (excuse me) JD 870 as that is all I had. I use a zero turn for the trimming and such. As the Fred Cain was wearing out, I replaced it with a Frontier 84" finish mower which really puts a pull on the 870 but it still works great. Recently I purchased a D17, but I think it's way too heavy for the yard work but will be fine for the pasture.
Overall the finish mowers have done a good job, if you change directions ever so often. ------------- Don't worry about the mule going blind, just load the wagon. |
Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 9:23am
| I had an old 6' Bush Hog finish mower that I used on a 5030. It came with the tractor. Did a nice job. Decided that I wasn't mowing that big of an area and could do it with an AC714 mower. Gave the 3pt finish mower to a friend who was looking for one. Now I wish I had it back. Was pretty handy along some fence lines. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 10:19am
Too heavy for the chain fall. The deck is 7 gauge, it's pretty heavy and I do clean it atleast once or twice a season but would like to do it more often.  |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 11:00am
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I use a 6' finish mower behind my CUT, does a good job I think ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 11:19am
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Belly mount mower under tractor - remove belt from back pulley and lift deck, block it, and remove blades with impact gun. Sharpen on the bench and reinstall.
Garden tractor - lift front end with hoist or bucket loader, remove blades with impact gun. Sharpen on bench and reinstall.
Also a good time to pressure wash the under side of the deck ------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 11:55am
| tried car ramps on my zero turn, can only get the middle blade off, when i tried to run the deck out further to over hang, the deck just drops down, had to get the ag crane on the 180 to get the mower off the ramps..pffft! so now the only way to get all the blades off is to tip the whole mower onto its side! if there's to much flex between the machine and the deck, it will bend the drive shaft that runs the deck! |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 12:39pm
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The best mower I have seen as far as deck and blade service goes is a Grasshopper. ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 12:45pm
------------- If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done! |
Posted By: RSponenberg
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 2:12pm
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Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 3:13pm
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On a slightly different vein, check out this guy near me that patented a 4 wheel drive, zero turn mower.
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/news/local/westminster-man-creates-four-wheel-drive-mower/article_bc4c7070-502f-11e0-b12b-001cc4c03286.html - http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/news/local/westminster-man-creates-four-wheel-drive-mower/article_bc4c7070-502f-11e0-b12b-001cc4c03286.html
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Posted By: hillmonkey
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 4:15pm
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im confused, is the "rear discharge" apply to the wife or girlfriend? also while we are addressing wifes and girl friends why did they put the intake so close to the exhaust? thanks in advance, hm |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 4:39pm
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I wouldn't work under the tractor while it was being held up by the loader unless there was some sort of mechanical lock on the loader. You could drive it up the ramp of your trailer, if you have one, or use the loader to lift it and block the wheels after it's up.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: RSponenberg
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 5:38pm
I use 2 jack stands under front axle. Car ramps and the smaller tractors like mine wont work the ramps are in the way.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 6:31pm
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I use a HiLift jack under the front of my zero turn mower. It's supposed to be able to stand up on the deck, but the jack is a lot easier. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 7:42pm
I'm like the guys above, I have a 84" Woods under green paint (Frontier) finish mower and a 7' 80 R to mow the road banks and a Grass hopper with a 60" deck to trim with and a 6' Bush Hog brand mower pull type to mow around the fields. they make mowing all my place a nice little job. Don
 ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 9:14pm
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I mow an acre and a half lot with a 6 foot 2010 Woods finish mower behind the NF D-17.No fluid or weights and tires are practically bald(My version of turf tires).Like others have said mow differently every time and tracks don't show.I am mowing a flat sqaure lot for my elderly neighbors and I got the 6 foot Woods to cut down time.35 minutes once a week.If you have uneven or hilly,bumpy ground the 3 pt. may not work so well.Lift it up and clean,service.Keep your blades staight and sharpen blades and it should work well. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: WD in kansas
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 11:42am
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Seems a lot of us think alike. I use a 7' King Kutter behind my WD, and the girlfriend push mows around the trees! Most of my trees are planted like a grid, so I can mow up and down or side to side staying mostly in a straight line. I use a farm jack and cinder blocks when I need to service it. Have an extra set of blades so I can sharpen anytime and switch as needed. ------------- 1950 WD, Duetz Allis 613 |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 1:59pm
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I use a 4' Bolens tag-along finish mower equipped with a 9HP B/S. behind my IB. Was used on a golf coarse originally. Does a great job on the couple acres of lawn that I have. Besides, I git' to drive the IB around to! JoAnna wants to try it this season. I'm probably gonna loose out on my ride!! I'll have to tell her its broke and mow when she's not around...... LOL!
mailto:Steve@B&B - Steve@B&B
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Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 2:14pm
| I don't know Steveo.If she's like mine,you won't be telling HER it's broke.After she uses it she'll be telling YOU it's broke. |
Posted By: 70Standard
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 12:04pm
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We have a 25-30 HP JD utility tractor and a Frontier 3 pt finish mower at work that doesn't impress. Get a lot of grass popping up in the tire tracks, and the mower doesn't cut the tall, thicker weeds very well. It looks better than mowing with a bush hog type cutter, but nothing like a true lawn mower. I tend to let things get moderately tall/thick before I mow, so perhaps it would do a better job if mowed more often. Trimming around things isn't a problem if you're used to 3 pt hitch implements and how they trail the tractor. ------------- Roof Palomino (SN 224), Chetech Pug UTV, Three Green Tractors and one Red Tractor. |
Posted By: chevytaHOE5674
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 12:17pm
| My neighbor has a JD CUT with a mid mounted deck. The deck is built in a way that you just pull a couple pins, undo the driveshaft and then drive over the top of it with the front tires do get it out from under the tractor. Then he flips it up with the loader to sharpen and wash it. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 12:25pm
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Those drive over decks on the Deeres have just made a come back in the past couple years. Now they have auto-connect, supposedly you can attach the deck from the seat, even the driveshaft. Not sure how well it works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL38_epKqw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL38_epKqw |
Posted By: indiana2door
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 8:54pm
| I mowed many years with a B and a Woods L59 and finally realized there had to be a better way than this 80 year old technology. Bought a ZTR and never looked back. Turned 8 hours of mowing into 2 hours including the trimming. Plus the ZTR does a much better job of cutting the grass. |