HD4 and 653 dozer
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Topic: HD4 and 653 dozer
Posted By: BV
Subject: HD4 and 653 dozer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2026 at 1:19pm
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what is the difference the HD4 and the 653 dozer, are parts still available for these and why didn't Allis use the little 4 cylinder diesel in more of their tractors? Are these dozers hard to work on and what can you expect to pay for one in good shape?
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2026 at 2:46pm
Main difference is 653 is pedal steer. HD4 is lever steer. Great little machines. Part are getting harder to find. Price is what you feel comfortable paying. HTH Tracy
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Posted By: BV
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2026 at 3:18pm
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is that one in your profile picture? thanks for the info.
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2026 at 1:05am
The same engine was use in cotton pickers but the HP was upped to I believe 85 HP
Ran into mechanic down in Indiana at GM truck shop who did work on the 2200 and said they could put out a lot more HP with some work and I believe he said with turbo used and changes to pump .
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2026 at 5:35pm
Yes, lever steer HD4, came from California. A old forum member hauled it back to me. Tracy
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