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Allis Chalmers pull type/on land hitch plows

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Topic: Allis Chalmers pull type/on land hitch plows
Posted By: bigal121892
Subject: Allis Chalmers pull type/on land hitch plows
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 8:11pm
What was the model numbers for Allis pull type plows offered in the 80’s?



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 9:00pm
2500 mono-frame??       2000 series (5" x 7 "bar) ......3000 series (7" x 7" bar).


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 10:09pm
Which hitch pulls best, on land or in furrow? Thanks, Tracy

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Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 10:50pm
Ive got a 3000 7bottom automatic reset on land plow. The best thing is the wheel tread width is not important
It does a fantastic job. As far as how it pulls compared to a in furrow plow i dont know. I dont have one to comapre it to. Im pulling it with a 8070 fwa so its not a problem to pull

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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 7:39am
One of the major manufacturers did lots of test back in the days of plowing and proved that in the furrow plows pulled easiest. However that required that the plow be in good working order and CORRECTLY adjusted. In today's world very few plows are either.  

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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 8:38am
I had an IH 7 bottom pulled with a D21, on land then I could leave the duals on, always thought it worked good but really no comparison with in furrow.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 11:07am
Has anyone seen an on land 7 bottom? That would look strange I would think.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 12:28pm
We had an on-land 6 x 16's 3000 monoframe.


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 2:50pm
Would this be the 9000?  #9765?? I think they said the hitch is set for D21 on land...Dale



Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 3:22pm
Orrangereborn, I'm sure that you have a 9000 series plow on the trailer.
I have a 3000 series 7 furrow semi mount 3pt on land hitch plow with auto resets.
I have never plowed with it. 3000 series are all 16" with 3pt semi mount on land hitch.
2500 series are 18" trailer plows only. 


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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 6:51pm
Thanks for the info.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 6:53pm
We sold several 2000 series monoframe 5 x 18's on new 7040 tractors. I always assumed the 3000 series had 18 inch available.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 8:29pm
I read somewhere that an in furrow VS on land hitch, the in furrow was more effecient. Think it was in Norm's book. I used neighbors  6-18 IH 720? behind my 220. Was fun! On land hitch which was great with 24.5 32's.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 8:38am
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

We had an on-land 6 x 16's 3000 monoframe.
right. I’ve seen several 6 bottoms either/ or. Seems the logical crossing point.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 8:40am
I see I TOTALLY screwed up what I meant to say. Meant to say IN FURROW 7 bottom. Sheesh. Sorry.


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 9:11am
Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

I read somewhere that an in furrow VS on land hitch, the in furrow was more effecient...

Seems to me that with each additional furrow the efficiency gap maybe would decrease? I dunno Confused


Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 3:46pm
2500 series 8 18 was largest plow made. A experimental 2050 series had new features and a 13 bottom was prototyped and never went into production. I would love to find that plow for my big implement collection. Ive got a 8x18 2500 auto reset that ive got to get home.

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Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 5:09pm
 I got to try a 7 bottom in furrow at a plow day in Oct. 7045 - 18.4-38 radials. Around 16k  weight wise on bean stubble. Don’t know if I would have tried it on cornstalks. Think you would start to run out of grip. I might be wrong (happens a lot). First  time I’ve ever pull one that big.


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 6:14pm
So in my area down hill only with the D21/220 and take it back to the top with the 7080   with duals? Have one 25 acre field where they took the top 10 feet for an overpass.   Might handle it there.. Kinda lite soil but sure shines up a plow...Dale


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 6:39pm
CWhit.  Set your Traction Booster linkage to the long hole down low on the right side of the torsion bar. Test Traction Booster adjustment as per the owners manual. Hang a dual on the land wheel side. At least 1000 lbs on the nose. You weigh 16K so you must have fluid. Probably 18 psi in the rear radial tires.  You'll be all right.


Posted By: only AC orange
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 8:47pm
I''m pulling 6 X 16 Allis 9000 series on land with D-21, 24.5 X 32 rubber. In tough, waxy ground the traction booster isn't responsive enuf to keep plow from nosing in and letting me count the stars. It doesn't have a front gauge wheel which I suspect would be a great help. Tractor is weighing about 15,500 when plowing.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2025 at 9:03pm
9000 series plows are HEAVY. More front end weight makes Traction Booster work much better. How can it work correctly when the front wheels raise off the ground?? It can't.



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