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Topic: Four-cylinder in-line Ford
Posted By: Unit3
Subject: Four-cylinder in-line Ford
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2025 at 8:06pm
Have a four-cylinder in-line Ford in a Joy air compressor. It runs great for the man in town, but when I get it out here to the farm, it will not run. Can a coil be good and then bad and then good and then bad. I would think once they go bad they’re bad. This will be the third time in a week. I’ve taken it to him. The man who works on it is absolutely incredible. You may not doubt his abilities. He can rebuild your Briggs & Stratton or your CAT C 15 engines. I cannot allow you to doubt his work. We have just got an intermittent problem on this engine. Can a coil be good one second bad the next and then go back to being good?

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Posted By: Darwin W. Kurtz
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2025 at 8:17pm
I had an International 560 tractor that I could never start. Would have the mechanic come and that thing would start. Finally, after a couple times he says let's put an inline fuel filter that they sell at wal mart on this just to be safe. We put one of those in and I never had trouble getting it to run again.


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2025 at 9:13pm
Is there fuel in the tank and is the shut off turned on?   Thumbs Up


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 2:24am
Things don't happen for no reason.  SOMETHING is changing.

Is the Ford an overhead valve industrial 134, 174 or 192?


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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 5:34am
Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

... Can a coil be good one second bad the next and then go back to being good?

Not likely but anything is possible.
Since you hinted at it, but did not clearly state, I am guessing that the engine is losing spark? Is it a breaker point ignition, or an 'electronic' type?

I would be inclined to look for poor connectivity; I have encountered faulty ignitions switches on several occasions. Also, the corrosion monsters never sleep Evil Smile


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 6:56am
If the key switch also powers the starter engagement, the key switch might not be providing power to the coil/points when cranking. It has happened before.


Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 8:49am
 I have had a couple coils quit working when hot.  After they cooled down ran great again.


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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by NEVER green NEVER green wrote:


 I have had a couple coils quit working when hot.  After they cooled down ran great again.

NEVER Green, it sure makes me wonder. There is a 12 to 6 volt knock down .

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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 4:42pm
The little Ford sports a new fuel filter and 12 v pump. It only has a toggle switch to turn it on.

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 5:52pm
There is a 12 to 6 volt knock down .

if you are saying you have a 12v battery and a 6 v coil with a drop resistor... THAT IS BAD... Must be very OLD... Get rid of both and get a new 12v coil with INTERNAL resistor..


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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

The little Ford sports a new fuel filter and 12 v pump. It only has a toggle switch to turn it on.

As a test, try a jumper wire straight from the battery to the coil, bypassing all of the existing wiring.


Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2025 at 8:15pm
I know this is going to come across as a snide comment, but can you get it to run when it is in town? The point is you have two variables, location and operator. Maybe it is just coincidence so far that it runs in town but not at the farm, or maybe your man in town is doing something a little different than you. With any luck it will fail in town, and your man can then see the failure. Nothing more frustrating than intermittent problems. When I run into something like that at work and finally find a potential cause, I never say I fixed THE problem, I tell them I fixed A problem. I hope this helps.

Ted

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