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2900 MARKII INJECTORS

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Topic: 2900 MARKII INJECTORS
Posted By: BIGS
Subject: 2900 MARKII INJECTORS
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 11:05am
Pardon my lack of diesel knowledge.  The intwerweb has not been helpful so here goes.-
I have a '78 FIAT ALLIS 545B loader. We were having fuel related issues, so I was on the hunt for a mobile diesel mechanic. Finding one for semi's is easy, older heavy equpt not so much. 
Mechanic #1 - informed us inj. pump and injectors needed a rebuild. Ok we have a place here that can do that. They inform me that out pump was actually in good shape. They resealed it and done. My injectors were in need of some help, also done. Mechanic reassembles. Thing ran but never quite right. 3 injectors pushing fuel thru the dust shields. (this is a condensed version), Happened  over the course of 6 months or so progressively getting worse.  Have no faith in this mechanic.

Mechanic #2 - (this started within the last 3 weeks). You need new dust seals, ok I get new dust seals. He also claims timing is off. Anyway fire her up, 3 dust seals ruined within seconds (another condensed version here). This has been a process, this mechanic does roadside repairs and doing mine between jobs. Ok I get that but....   
I get 3 replacement seals -yet to be installed.

So here is my question. Does this engine require copper washers/seals?  I have looked online at parts sources, 2900 injectors are shown without seals in the pictures. But I have found 3500 injectors and they are shown with the copper seals (go between the injector and the cyl head). In the pics the injectors look the same. Can anyone put me in a direction here? Thanks in advance.



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 12:00pm
Copper injector sleeves in the head ?? (should be) require NO COPPER WASHERS  !!!   The injectors also have a tapered seat nut to seal inside the copper sleeves at the bottom. Injectors that have cast iron injector holes use a copper washer and have a squared off nut for them to seal against. I hope the copper sleeves aren't all boogered up now after all of these ignorant tech's.


Posted By: BIGS
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 1:20pm
I just found this - some do some don't????   Something has to hold compression in the cylinder... (?)


Posted By: BIGS
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 1:22pm
sorry the computer im on is old - no resize feature. But says 2900mark2  545b/605b 


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 2:48pm
One more time:  Copper injector sleeves in the head do NOT use any copper sealing compression washer/gasket on the injector tip.  If the injectors fit in a cast iron pocket, you need a copper sealing compression washer. Who knows what you have for a cylinder head. In the last 50 years someone could have changed it to something the parts book doesn't agree with. Injectors that do not use a copper washer have a different (tapered) nut on the end of the injector. Injectors that need a copper compression washer have a square nut on the end of the injector for the copper washer to fit onto.



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