1952 CA Pickup Plow Parts Needed
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Topic: 1952 CA Pickup Plow Parts Needed
Posted By: dfwallis
Subject: 1952 CA Pickup Plow Parts Needed
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2025 at 3:19pm
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I have enough parts to make one good bottom set. The other is all broken/welded. It will be functional, but I'd prefer it if I could find replacements in decent condition: MB: 309211   PS: 308807. I don't like the way that seam looks and may work on it myself some more.  Formed a hook and partially built up the trailing edge with nickel rod.  14 Inch Draw rod (completely missing):  Disc for hub 317990. The other is in good condition. Both completely functional. Measures 13.25", likely 13.5". Not found anything exactly like it at Shoup, but one John Deere one looks adaptable.  MB Extension 315982 (have part where the mounting holes are, rest ripped off). Probably could make something suitable by copying the good one.  ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2025 at 7:34am
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309211 is a part number for a #325-14" bottom. I'd been hauling a good pair of them, with shares around for years with no interest in them. After returning from the Missouri River swap meet this past march all the #325 used parts I had went on a load of scrap, most likely headed to China. The coulter hub and coulter disc are universal for most all early Allis plows, same for the molboard extension. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2025 at 10:21am
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PaulB wrote:Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 11:36am
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It seems that Steve Rea of Ploworx will make parts, if I can't locate some, and if he can get enough design information. That could be the problem. He doesn't have AC plow documentation. There are plenty of picture examples online, but needs precise dimensions and probably curvatures. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: 560Dennis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 3:10pm
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lt is my opinion the you will be fine with properly welded shares and moldboards. Ive done as a dyi. I’ve plowed in matched with my dyi welding . |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 3:23pm
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Question, is there an advantage to putting the broken one in front or aft to reduce chance of re-breaking? I.e. if I hit roots, the good one will stop the tractor before the broken/welded one sees it? ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: 560Dennis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 3:25pm
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sorry to hear that , I have a number 4 , I went to tri state show in Portland Indiana looking for plow 325 plow parts ,nobody had any. There was a guy with 2 325 14 trailers , but I wasn’t going strip two nice plows for parts. |
Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 3:26pm
I would rather risk the welded one being in front since it is already broken. Just my 2 cents worth
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Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 3:41pm
True, but I was thinking a little root isn't likely to break the nonwelded ones. It was probably broken though overt misuse (repeated attempts to jerk a root or tree out). A responsible person is going to stop and try to free the plow/back up first. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 5:18pm
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I may have found a source for all parts. I won't know for a week or so. He has to go verify stock.
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 5:49pm
I'd kinda like to find a 2X12 or 2X14 mechanical lift trailer plow. however if I found one with #325 bottoms on it, I'd remove the bottom assemblies to replace them with #124 which are better suited for my area. That's how I come to have had the #325 parts I couldn't find interest in, which led to them being scrapped. Sadly I have many other NOS and used parts that may soon be loaded on the truck for one last trip. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: 560Dennis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 5:58pm
| What is the difference in the 124 ? Any thing with the soil that i can educate my self |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2025 at 6:34pm
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2025 at 9:36pm
| We might have some stuff left. What are you still looking for |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 5:32pm
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I was able to locate all parts, some NOS, all in really good condition (just surface rust). Includes "325" moldboard, plowshare, 2 j bolts, 2 moldboard extensions, allis branded plow bolts (edit: and coulter disc). The moldboard extensions are slightly different with rounded ends. The originals have squared off ends with rounded corners, so I got 2. He has additional MB and plowshare. I should have got them, but there's a severe shortage of storage space with all the model T parts and the other set I have are in pretty good shape (some pitting). He was very reasonably priced also.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2025 at 10:30pm
| Sounds good. |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2025 at 8:35pm
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What makes a 124 preferred over a 325? 325 looks to be quite long slow turning moldboard which would seem to reduce hp requirements as compared to many current short stubby designs. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2025 at 12:56pm
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My new plow parts arrived on Wednesday. They are virtually rust and wear free. Required almost no prep to ready for painting. It was sad to have to remove some of the original paper ac stickers though ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2025 at 7:17pm
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Disappointed i didn't get the plow at least started back together...paint not sufficiently dry. Should be able to get it back together in November. On the bright side, the generator is working again...bad cheapo regulator...he got same results as me. You could nudge it on, but never on its own...I think it's just an adjustment issue, but it now has a regulator to his liking...us made. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2025 at 7:35pm
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I think the only parts I'm missing are the 2 clipped head bolts for the landslides. I found some similar online but I doubt they'll work. But I think I can duplicate them if needed. The old ones had to be cut to remove them. I'll. Double check the bolts sent with the parts. He only mentioned plow bolts, so I didn't think to check the bag thoroughly. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2025 at 6:05pm
| I just got a couple from shoup. 1/2 inch by 1 and a half. Coarse thread. Did need a little seating but worked great. IH used a lot of clipped head plow bolts. Make sure you wear proper PPE before entering a case ih dealership! |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2025 at 7:02pm
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Those look similar to what I got from grainger or mcmaster carr (can't remember). Those i got aren't shaped like the original...original are completely flat on the sides, no bevel on any surface. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2025 at 6:50pm
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My plow book only refers to these bolts as locking lugs. Maybe clipped head isn't quite the right terminology...but it seems to fit, just not precisely what seems to be available now. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2025 at 6:45am
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There are 4 types of plow bolts that I as familiar with. 1, the square head under the flat head, 2, clipped head, 2 flats and 2 radius's. 3, the Allis bolt with the single locking lug. 4, the Allis 'cat's eye'. Didn't know they even existed until last spring when I bought some shares from Kenny. Had plows with them but hadn't ever removed a share. It would be really nice if there were only 1 or possibly 2 styles. Numbers 3&4 on my list are rather difficult to source. If any of this is incorrect somebody fix it or add to it if there are more I'm missing.
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Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2025 at 8:51am
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Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2025 at 9:07am
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T slot? But dozens of t slot styles. Toilet bolt with a very thick head ------------- 1952 CA13092 |