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Topic: Question on Loaders for Tractors

Posted By: steve(ill)
Subject: Question on Loaders for Tractors
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2025 at 9:57am

Looking for something around 30 HP to use forks and maybe a bucket to push snow. Every tractor is see ( 1950- 1980) has the bucket 3-4 feet in front of the front wheels ?? Why so far out ? Much better design if closer to the wheels.. Is this because they use one loader size to fit several tractors ? ........ Looking at skid steers and the bucket is less than 1 foot in front of the tires ..... Newer tractor / loaders seem to be a little better in this area, but i dont have $10- 15K in mind.

WE have a CASE 530 industrial backhoe / loader tractor.. Looking for something a little smaller and no hoe.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2025 at 10:38am

One possible reason is 'reach' ? The longer the loader arms are , the HIGHER the load can go ( say 2nd floor of a barn ).

Skid steers loader pivots at the back,unlike a tractor, so can just dump into a dump truck, more or less.

Also tractor loaders are designed to easily come off.

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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

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Posted By: Leadoff
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2025 at 11:28am

Steve(ill)

Our 1957 D17 Series I Freeman Loader extended several feet in front of the wheels which allowed dumping manure into the manure spreader. In our area (Eastern Ontario) farmers would clean the stable daily using a stable cleaner and load the manure spreader, then unload at a manure pile on the farm when the snow got too deep in December. The manure pile would be reloaded and then spread on the field sometime from spring to fall.

The front end loader on the D17 would make quick work of the pile

As technology improved, larger/longer barn cleaner chutes were available in the late sixties and more piles moved to beside the barn, and eventually manure pits and pumps and backhoes became the manure removal tools of today

There are numerous Allis Chalmers sales brochures from the fifties/sixties for front end loaders with pics of the various manure piles etc and the AC tractor/loader in action

If I had a dollar (CDN) for every bucket full of manure I loaded into the manure spreader with the D17 back in the day.............

PS our D17 did not have power steering - good arm/shoulder muscle development

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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow

Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2025 at 12:18pm

Maybe a good design for some applications and reasoning, but I’ve operated several different loader/ tractor combinations and I love the ones with some reach. Very useful in a lot of ways, can’t think of a way it has hindered me. Maybe in very tight spaces?